⁠Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Glean Founder

⁠Why OpenAI and Anthropic Won't Win the App Layer | Glean Founder

Arvind Jain is the Founder & CEO of Glean, the enterprise AI leader valued at $7.2 billion after raising more than $770 million from investors including Kleiner Perkins, DST Global, and more. Before Glean, Arvind co-founded Rubrik, helping build it into one of the world's leading cloud infrastructure companies before its successful IPO. Prior to that, he spent over a decade at Google as a Distinguished Engineer, working across Search, Maps, and YouTube. ----------------------------------------------- Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:12 Are Enterprises Right to Fear Frontier Model Providers? 06:21 Who Owns the Institutional Learning That Agents Build? 07:25 Why Enterprises Are Shifting to Open Source 12:28 Are Frontier Models Commoditising? 15:01 Have We Completely Mispriced the Frontier Model Landscape? 22:00 Why AI Is Not Working in Enterprise 27:00 The Agent Token Waste Problem 28:01 Should You Actually Try to Replace Yourself With AI? 29:25 Glean Has 1,000 People - Will It Have 5,000 in 5 Years? 33:49 The $1M/Month Agent That Replaced 15 Engineers 37:22 Per Person Productivity Will Go Up, But So Will the Bar to Compete 39:03 The AI Power Law Inside Companies 46:56 Which Roles Will Disappear First: Analysts, Recruiters & BI Teams 48:10 Do We Need Sovereign AI Models? 51:40 Chinese Open Source Dominates Open Router 52:25 Sam Altman's 5% to Trump 54:30 Quick-Fire Round ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Subscribe on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3j2KMcZTtgTNBKwtZBMHvl?si=85bc9196860e4466 Subscribe on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-twenty-minute-vc-20vc-venture-capital-startup/id958230465 Follow Harry Stebbings on X: https://twitter.com/HarryStebbings Follow Arvind Jain on X: https://twitter.com/jainarvind Follow 20VC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/20vchq Follow 20VC on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@20vc_tok Visit our Website: https://www.20vc.com Subscribe to our Newsletter: https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/contact ----------------------------------------------- #20vc #harrystebbings #founder #ai #glean #arvindjain #frontiermodels #china #aiagents