Tim Ferriss has been listed as one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and one of Fortune’s “40 under 40.” He is an early-stage technology investor/advisor (Uber, Facebook, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ others) and the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers, including The 4-Hour Workweek and Tools of Titans: The Tactics, Routines, and Habits of Billionaires, Icons, and World-Class Performers. The Observer and other media have called Tim “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of The Tim Ferriss Show podcast, which is the first business/interview podcast to exceed 100 million downloads. It has now exceeded 900 million downloads.
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Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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6:13
Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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6:03
Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Wealthfront disclaimer: New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). Terms and conditions apply. The Cash Account offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC (“WFB”) member FINRA/SIPC, not a bank. The base APY as of 1/30/26 is representative, can change, and requires no minimum. Tim Ferriss, a non-client, receives compensation from WFB for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of WFB, which creates a conflict of interest. Individual experiences and outcomes will differ. Instant withdrawals may be limited by your receiving firm and other factors. Investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisers LLC, an SEC-registered investment adviser. Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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9:22
Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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7:02
Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Guy Oseary has been spotting talent before anyone else could see it for nearly four decades. Under his leadership at Maverick Records, Maverick sold more than 100 million albums. Guy has managed some of the biggest names in music, including Madonna, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and U2, and was named Variety's Music Mogul of the Year in 2022. He executive produced Twilight, which became one of the most successful franchises in movie history, generating more than $3.5B. Guy was also an early investor in Vita Coco and co-founded A-Grade Investments and then Sound Ventures, now with nearly $2 billion under management. At A-Grade, his hits included Airbnb, Uber, and Spotify. Sound Ventures launched with less than $100M and has since had 86 exits and 26 IPOs.
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[00:00] Preview.
[01:14] How a West Hollywood balcony became a backstage pass.
[02:45] A knife on Pico Boulevard and the snap decision to switch schools.
[05:07] Faking a Beverly Hills address to get inside another world.
[07:27] Wise Guy Records: a 15-year-old builds a portfolio out of nothing.
[08:43] Bernie Brillstein offers $25,000. Guy asks for three phone calls instead.
[10:51] The one moment that confirmed Guy was on the right path.
[11:48] Freddy DeMann and how Guy proved himself with Ice-T's crew.
[14:11] A desk at Maverick records in exchange for no salary.
[14:52] Chasing Hole and Rage Against the Machine — and losing both.
[21:24] Candlebox in five minutes: seeing thousands in a room of 30.
[22:02] Why "magic" beats everything else.
[24:25] Signing Alanis off a single song and stopping Muse mid-audition.
[28:14] The real Alanis story: "Perfect," Joni Mitchell, and a 30-million-selling debut.
[31:47] What Madonna taught Guy about thinking without walls.
[34:46] Why Guy treats every founder like a rock star.
[35:22] From bands to Twilight: the power of a blank canvas.
[42:22] How Guy got into investing, and the IdeaLab bet that wiped him out before the crash.
[51:46] Why Guy is known as a great curator of people.
[56:34] The three-month window that caught OpenAI and Anthropic.
[59:03] How the Anthropic deal happened in this room.
[01:05:07] The fight to make AI pay artists.
[01:07:34] How Spotify solved the problems Napster couldn't overcome.
[01:14:10] SpaceX and Bitcoin: the ones that got away.
[01:16:03] The rewards, rigors, and responsibilities of back-to-back touring.
[01:20:26] Why Guy never stops to celebrate.
[01:23:42] Splitting with Ashton Kutcher after 20 years.
[01:26:34] Final thoughts on Guy's first podcast.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:27:43
Guy Oseary has been spotting talent before anyone else could see it for nearly four decades. Under his leadership at Maverick Records, Maverick sold more than 100 million albums. Guy has managed some of the biggest names in music, including Madonna, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and U2, and was named Variety's Music Mogul of the Year in 2022. He executive produced Twilight, which became one of the most successful franchises in movie history, generating more than $3.5B. Guy was also an early investor in Vita Coco and co-founded A-Grade Investments and then Sound Ventures, now with nearly $2 billion under management. At A-Grade, his hits included Airbnb, Uber, and Spotify. Sound Ventures launched with less than $100M and has since had 86 exits and 26 IPOs.
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[00:00] Preview.
[01:14] How a West Hollywood balcony became a backstage pass.
[02:45] A knife on Pico Boulevard and the snap decision to switch schools.
[05:07] Faking a Beverly Hills address to get inside another world.
[07:27] Wise Guy Records: a 15-year-old builds a portfolio out of nothing.
[08:43] Bernie Brillstein offers $25,000. Guy asks for three phone calls instead.
[10:51] The one moment that confirmed Guy was on the right path.
[11:48] Freddy DeMann and how Guy proved himself with Ice-T's crew.
[14:11] A desk at Maverick records in exchange for no salary.
[14:52] Chasing Hole and Rage Against the Machine — and losing both.
[21:24] Candlebox in five minutes: seeing thousands in a room of 30.
[22:02] Why "magic" beats everything else.
[24:25] Signing Alanis off a single song and stopping Muse mid-audition.
[28:14] The real Alanis story: "Perfect," Joni Mitchell, and a 30-million-selling debut.
[31:47] What Madonna taught Guy about thinking without walls.
[34:46] Why Guy treats every founder like a rock star.
[35:22] From bands to Twilight: the power of a blank canvas.
[42:22] How Guy got into investing, and the IdeaLab bet that wiped him out before the crash.
[51:46] Why Guy is known as a great curator of people.
[56:34] The three-month window that caught OpenAI and Anthropic.
[59:03] How the Anthropic deal happened in this room.
[01:05:07] The fight to make AI pay artists.
[01:07:34] How Spotify solved the problems Napster couldn't overcome.
[01:14:10] SpaceX and Bitcoin: the ones that got away.
[01:16:03] The rewards, rigors, and responsibilities of back-to-back touring.
[01:20:26] Why Guy never stops to celebrate.
[01:23:42] Splitting with Ashton Kutcher after 20 years.
[01:26:34] Final thoughts on Guy's first podcast.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Max Levchin is a serial entrepreneur and investor in 100+ startups. He's the founder and CEO of Affirm, the payment network powering consumer purchases and merchant growth. An original PayPal co-founder, Max served as CTO until its 2002 acquisition by eBay.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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11:28
Max Levchin is a serial entrepreneur and investor in 100+ startups. He's the founder and CEO of Affirm, the payment network powering consumer purchases and merchant growth. An original PayPal co-founder, Max served as CTO until its 2002 acquisition by eBay.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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"Coca is to cocaine what potatoes are to vodka" — Dr. Andrew Weil and Wade Davis on the health benefits, sacred history, and unjust prohibition of the most misunderstood plant on Earth.
Dr. Andrew Weil is a pioneer in integrative medicine and founder of the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona, where he holds the Lovell-Jones Endowed Chair and serves as Clinical Professor of Medicine and Professor of Public Health.
Wade Davis is an ethnographer, writer, photographer, and filmmaker. From 2014 to 2024 he served as Professor of Anthropology and BC Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia, and from 2000 to 2013 as Explorer-in-Residence at the National Geographic Society.
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[00:00] Start.
[00:30] When coca tea cured my brutal altitude sickness in Chile.
[01:56] Andy meets coca, 1965: the Andes' master medicine for gut, energy, mood, metabolism.
[04:20] 14 alkaloids, one scapegoat.
[05:12] The paradox: one remedy for both diarrhea and constipation.
[09:49] 8,000 years, zero addiction — and the 1975 study no one wanted to run.
[11:23] Eradication began 60 years before there was a cocaine problem.
[12:05] Two nations inside Peru: alcohol versus coca.
[12:42] The 1950 UN commission that dictated coca policy by pseudoscience, fear, and racism.
[13:49] Filed beside fentanyl and heroin; 250,000 families and the price of peace.
[15:46] What coca actually feels like: milder than half a coffee, no crash, no withdrawal.
[20:06] Decoupling the leaf from the cartels; why crop substitution is a fantasy.
[21:45] Domesticated three times; the accident of Schedule II.
[23:42] The sacred leaf: k'intu, cruceta, Pachamama, runakuna.
[27:10] Hayo in the Sierra Nevada, and Latin America's most-denied gift.
[28:56] The wedge in the door: demand, the FDA, and an entrepreneur's gold mine.
[36:40] The story coca deserves — a film, green powders, and one good study.
[39:31] Monkey mind, the tax of consciousness, and an 84th birthday on coca.
[43:59] Whom to fund: McCurdy and the hunt for legal leaves.
[45:41] Could coca treat cocaine addiction? Cost, and NIDA's timing.
[49:46] "Green cocaine" at the airport: coca is to cocaine as potatoes are to vodka.
[53:28] A 24-hour ritual run powered entirely by coca.
[55:41] Why two men gave their careers to one leaf — and the pharmaceutical body count.
[1:03:06] America's legal cocaine capital, and Coke's secret recipe.
[1:05:58] No accident: the hideous prose behind laws we still obey.
[1:12:38] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:16:06
"Coca is to cocaine what potatoes are to vodka" — Dr. Andrew Weil and Wade Davis on the health benefits, sacred history, and unjust prohibition of the most misunderstood plant on Earth.
Dr. Andrew Weil is a pioneer in integrative medicine and founder of the Andrew Weil Center for Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona, where he holds the Lovell-Jones Endowed Chair and serves as Clinical Professor of Medicine and Professor of Public Health.
Wade Davis is an ethnographer, writer, photographer, and filmmaker. From 2014 to 2024 he served as Professor of Anthropology and BC Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia, and from 2000 to 2013 as Explorer-in-Residence at the National Geographic Society.
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[00:00] Start.
[00:30] When coca tea cured my brutal altitude sickness in Chile.
[01:56] Andy meets coca, 1965: the Andes' master medicine for gut, energy, mood, metabolism.
[04:20] 14 alkaloids, one scapegoat.
[05:12] The paradox: one remedy for both diarrhea and constipation.
[09:49] 8,000 years, zero addiction — and the 1975 study no one wanted to run.
[11:23] Eradication began 60 years before there was a cocaine problem.
[12:05] Two nations inside Peru: alcohol versus coca.
[12:42] The 1950 UN commission that dictated coca policy by pseudoscience, fear, and racism.
[13:49] Filed beside fentanyl and heroin; 250,000 families and the price of peace.
[15:46] What coca actually feels like: milder than half a coffee, no crash, no withdrawal.
[20:06] Decoupling the leaf from the cartels; why crop substitution is a fantasy.
[21:45] Domesticated three times; the accident of Schedule II.
[23:42] The sacred leaf: k'intu, cruceta, Pachamama, runakuna.
[27:10] Hayo in the Sierra Nevada, and Latin America's most-denied gift.
[28:56] The wedge in the door: demand, the FDA, and an entrepreneur's gold mine.
[36:40] The story coca deserves — a film, green powders, and one good study.
[39:31] Monkey mind, the tax of consciousness, and an 84th birthday on coca.
[43:59] Whom to fund: McCurdy and the hunt for legal leaves.
[45:41] Could coca treat cocaine addiction? Cost, and NIDA's timing.
[49:46] "Green cocaine" at the airport: coca is to cocaine as potatoes are to vodka.
[53:28] A 24-hour ritual run powered entirely by coca.
[55:41] Why two men gave their careers to one leaf — and the pharmaceutical body count.
[1:03:06] America's legal cocaine capital, and Coke's secret recipe.
[1:05:58] No accident: the hideous prose behind laws we still obey.
[1:12:38] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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[00:00] Start.
[00:41] The twinkly eyed polymath who became Sebastian's next book.
[05:19] Picking the next book project the way a great VC picks a startup.
[08:20] Why God keeps crashing the superintelligence party.
[09:55] Shane Legg's grainy 2009 prophecy — and the nervous giggle.
[11:51] Ilya Sutskever burns an effigy.
[12:31] Demis at 4 a.m., hunting God's algorithm.
[14:32] Super-abundance, Mad Max, and the China shock lesson.
[18:34] The kitchen debate with Geoff Hinton that flipped Sebastian.
[20:07] Why a zero-percent chance of doom is indefensible.
[20:56] Will Washington seize the labs? The Mythos wake-up call.
[23:25] Anthropic's bull case, bear case, and a dead parent's letter.
[29:36] Where Sebastian and Benedict Evans part ways.
[34:56] Is the SaaS apocalypse overdone? One word: Palantir.
[36:35] The AI friend you'll never switch.
[38:50] Does Google win consumer AI by default?
[40:26] Four cities, eight days: China actually talks safety.
[43:15] A Cold War non-proliferation playbook for AI.
[45:34] Did the chip export controls actually work?
[48:43] Burned doves: why Washington swears China won't talk.
[50:51] "By 2028, the race is over" — one lab boss' bet.
[55:21] Inside Hikvision: toddlers, sensors, and US sanctions.
[57:21] Bill Gurley's Uber bet: venture capital perfected.
[1:01:40] Luke Nosek bear-hugs DeepMind into existence.
[1:07:24] Thiel's heresy: never invest by committee.
[1:08:36] How Founders Fund nearly fumbled the deal of the century.
[1:11:09] Selling to Google for $650M: a secret British heist?
[1:13:28] The Traitorous Eight, gardening leave, and the UK's to-do list.
[1:17:51] Ender's Game: "That's really how I see myself."
[1:20:39] Too dumb for Gödel, Escher, Bach? Maybe an LLM can help.
[1:22:12] If not Demis or Sam, then Dario.
[1:23:03] My royalties cliff — and what dropped in late 2022.
[1:24:47] Lila Sciences and the labs that run themselves.
[1:28:10] Sebastian's billboard: "Prepare your mind."
[1:32:25] The one thing Sebastian will never outsource to AI.
[1:37:36] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:39:48
Sebastian Mallaby is the Paul A. Volcker senior fellow for international economics at the Council on Foreign Relations, a two-time Pulitzer Prize finalist, and the author of six books, including More Money Than God, The Power Law, The Man Who Knew, and The World's Banker. His latest book is The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind, and the Quest for Superintelligence.
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Wealthfront disclaimer: New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). Terms and conditions apply. The Cash Account offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC (“WFB”) member FINRA/SIPC, not a bank. The base APY as of 1/30/26 is representative, can change, and requires no minimum. Tim Ferriss, a non-client, receives compensation from WFB for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of WFB, which creates a conflict of interest. Individual experiences and outcomes will differ. Instant withdrawals may be limited by your receiving firm and other factors. Investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisers LLC, an SEC-registered investment adviser. Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.
[00:00] Start.
[00:41] The twinkly eyed polymath who became Sebastian's next book.
[05:19] Picking the next book project the way a great VC picks a startup.
[08:20] Why God keeps crashing the superintelligence party.
[09:55] Shane Legg's grainy 2009 prophecy — and the nervous giggle.
[11:51] Ilya Sutskever burns an effigy.
[12:31] Demis at 4 a.m., hunting God's algorithm.
[14:32] Super-abundance, Mad Max, and the China shock lesson.
[18:34] The kitchen debate with Geoff Hinton that flipped Sebastian.
[20:07] Why a zero-percent chance of doom is indefensible.
[20:56] Will Washington seize the labs? The Mythos wake-up call.
[23:25] Anthropic's bull case, bear case, and a dead parent's letter.
[29:36] Where Sebastian and Benedict Evans part ways.
[34:56] Is the SaaS apocalypse overdone? One word: Palantir.
[36:35] The AI friend you'll never switch.
[38:50] Does Google win consumer AI by default?
[40:26] Four cities, eight days: China actually talks safety.
[43:15] A Cold War non-proliferation playbook for AI.
[45:34] Did the chip export controls actually work?
[48:43] Burned doves: why Washington swears China won't talk.
[50:51] "By 2028, the race is over" — one lab boss' bet.
[55:21] Inside Hikvision: toddlers, sensors, and US sanctions.
[57:21] Bill Gurley's Uber bet: venture capital perfected.
[1:01:40] Luke Nosek bear-hugs DeepMind into existence.
[1:07:24] Thiel's heresy: never invest by committee.
[1:08:36] How Founders Fund nearly fumbled the deal of the century.
[1:11:09] Selling to Google for $650M: a secret British heist?
[1:13:28] The Traitorous Eight, gardening leave, and the UK's to-do list.
[1:17:51] Ender's Game: "That's really how I see myself."
[1:20:39] Too dumb for Gödel, Escher, Bach? Maybe an LLM can help.
[1:22:12] If not Demis or Sam, then Dario.
[1:23:03] My royalties cliff — and what dropped in late 2022.
[1:24:47] Lila Sciences and the labs that run themselves.
[1:28:10] Sebastian's billboard: "Prepare your mind."
[1:32:25] The one thing Sebastian will never outsource to AI.
[1:37:36] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Max Levchin is a serial entrepreneur and investor in 100+ startups. He's the founder and CEO of Affirm, the payment network powering consumer purchases and merchant growth. An original PayPal co-founder, Max served as CTO until its 2002 acquisition by eBay.
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[00:00] Preview.
[00:43] The Ronin line that rewired how Max makes every decision.
[04:06] Paprika-style brain-computer interfaces.
[07:08] PayPal's founders lived inside a Neal Stephenson novel.
[13:25] Transformation via Neuromancer and Snow Crash.
[17:43] The book that found Max his wife.
[23:34] The real secret to a great marriage.
[32:55] What's worth tracking, and what's not.
[37:20] A scrawny kid, a clarinet, and a Kyiv velodrome.
[40:01] What going all-out on a bike actually gives you.
[44:13] The mantra by which Max rides.
[46:16] A Soviet kid's fear of socialism.
[56:19] Making a profit without destroying society.
[58:00] What is Affirm, and why did every banker say it would fail?
[1:14:06] Why the best mathematicians eschew the lending industry.
[1:17:42] Does agentic commerce break Affirm, or supercharge it?
[1:21:55] A PhD-level financial advisor in everyone's pocket.
[1:23:55] How close are we to buying anything through one AI chat?
[1:30:30] Improving your coffee: cheap, intermediate, and Bugatti options.
[1:38:37] The books every first-time founder should actually read.
[1:42:23] Claude Shannon, Ed Thorp, and the joy of playful genius.
[1:45:15] Why physical books still beat every digital reading experience.
[1:45:54] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:47:26
Max Levchin is a serial entrepreneur and investor in 100+ startups. He's the founder and CEO of Affirm, the payment network powering consumer purchases and merchant growth. An original PayPal co-founder, Max served as CTO until its 2002 acquisition by eBay.
This episode is brought to you by:
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Shopify global commerce platform, providing tools to start, grow, market, and manage a retail business: https://Shopify.com/tim
[00:00] Preview.
[00:43] The Ronin line that rewired how Max makes every decision.
[04:06] Paprika-style brain-computer interfaces.
[07:08] PayPal's founders lived inside a Neal Stephenson novel.
[13:25] Transformation via Neuromancer and Snow Crash.
[17:43] The book that found Max his wife.
[23:34] The real secret to a great marriage.
[32:55] What's worth tracking, and what's not.
[37:20] A scrawny kid, a clarinet, and a Kyiv velodrome.
[40:01] What going all-out on a bike actually gives you.
[44:13] The mantra by which Max rides.
[46:16] A Soviet kid's fear of socialism.
[56:19] Making a profit without destroying society.
[58:00] What is Affirm, and why did every banker say it would fail?
[1:14:06] Why the best mathematicians eschew the lending industry.
[1:17:42] Does agentic commerce break Affirm, or supercharge it?
[1:21:55] A PhD-level financial advisor in everyone's pocket.
[1:23:55] How close are we to buying anything through one AI chat?
[1:30:30] Improving your coffee: cheap, intermediate, and Bugatti options.
[1:38:37] The books every first-time founder should actually read.
[1:42:23] Claude Shannon, Ed Thorp, and the joy of playful genius.
[1:45:15] Why physical books still beat every digital reading experience.
[1:45:54] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/
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Jake Becraft is the CEO and co-founder of Strand Therapeutics, a company building one of the most advanced programmable genetic medicine platforms in biotechnology. Under his leadership, Strand is redefining what RNA medicines can do by enabling cell-selective targeting and therapeutic payload delivery inside the body, unlocking a new class of precision genetic therapies.
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This episode is an experiment. I'm trying out a new format — half interview, half live jam session. I've started a new series, working title "Tim's Founder Kitchen," built around actual brainstorming sessions with founders willing to share the audio. This first installment is with Jake Becraft of Strand Therapeutics—one of the companies I'm most excited about—and it's a two-part conversation that lets you track a positioning and comms discussion from a raw early-stage session all the way through to the real-world results it produced a couple months later. It's a rare before-and-after, and I genuinely want your feedback: let me know on X @tferriss what you think and how I can make it better.
[00:00] Preview.
[00:48] What Strand does.
[02:58] The Boston dinner.
[05:56] The image of a body riddled with cancer.
[09:58] What stuck for the muggles in the pitch deck.
[12:03] A good drug vs. a good product.
[14:38] Tricking cancer into snitching on itself.
[20:10] The abscopal effect.
[26:57] Potency, specificity, and delivery.
[28:40] First principles thinking.
[29:32] The precipice of a revolution.
[34:10] The thousand people in the room.
[41:55] Psychedelic medicine as a cautionary tale.
[44:39] What actually catches a policymaker's attention.
[47:08] Breakthrough vs. incremental.
[48:24] What's in it for the policymakers?
[51:40] The 80/20 wish list.
[55:04] Australia's CTN system.
[57:22] Sheep, psychedelics, and red-tape arbitrage.
[58:54] China's clinical-trial flywheel vs. slow-motion American loss.
[1:00:28] The bicoastal biotech ethos.
[1:01:41] Can the FDA actually pull this off?
[1:05:46] The Sophie's Choice of pharma development.
[1:07:48] Lost arts of founder mode.
[1:09:03] Rockets for tumors, T-cells, and beyond.
[1:12:45] Viral in policy circles.
[1:16:55] The Washington Post headline and the PickFu split test.
[1:21:53] Solution-first storytelling.
[1:28:01] RNA Medicine and Platform Therapeutics.
[1:33:41] Moderna's 62 days.
[1:35:08] Uber Eats and the de-risked launch.
[1:38:39] CEO blockers.
[1:40:14] Where's biotech's SpaceX moment?
[1:41:14] Elon Musk betting black on the wheel.
[1:46:21] AWS and the post-conviction/pre-consensus window.
[1:53:20] COVID politicization.
[1:54:20] Insulin, growth hormone, and the original platform story.
[1:56:10] Biotech as pharma's little brother.
[1:58:04] More recent role models, Apple edition.
[1:59:22] Art Levinson, Steve Jobs, and the biotech-tech crossover.
[2:00:58] The iPhone as a delivery platform.
[2:03:00] Spotify's problem and the future of bespoke medicine.
[2:04:41] Baby KJ and the limits of liver-only solutions.
[2:05:56] Parting thoughts.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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2:06:18
Jake Becraft is the CEO and co-founder of Strand Therapeutics, a company building one of the most advanced programmable genetic medicine platforms in biotechnology. Under his leadership, Strand is redefining what RNA medicines can do by enabling cell-selective targeting and therapeutic payload delivery inside the body, unlocking a new class of precision genetic therapies.
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This episode is an experiment. I'm trying out a new format — half interview, half live jam session. I've started a new series, working title "Tim's Founder Kitchen," built around actual brainstorming sessions with founders willing to share the audio. This first installment is with Jake Becraft of Strand Therapeutics—one of the companies I'm most excited about—and it's a two-part conversation that lets you track a positioning and comms discussion from a raw early-stage session all the way through to the real-world results it produced a couple months later. It's a rare before-and-after, and I genuinely want your feedback: let me know on X @tferriss what you think and how I can make it better.
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[00:48] What Strand does.
[02:58] The Boston dinner.
[05:56] The image of a body riddled with cancer.
[09:58] What stuck for the muggles in the pitch deck.
[12:03] A good drug vs. a good product.
[14:38] Tricking cancer into snitching on itself.
[20:10] The abscopal effect.
[26:57] Potency, specificity, and delivery.
[28:40] First principles thinking.
[29:32] The precipice of a revolution.
[34:10] The thousand people in the room.
[41:55] Psychedelic medicine as a cautionary tale.
[44:39] What actually catches a policymaker's attention.
[47:08] Breakthrough vs. incremental.
[48:24] What's in it for the policymakers?
[51:40] The 80/20 wish list.
[55:04] Australia's CTN system.
[57:22] Sheep, psychedelics, and red-tape arbitrage.
[58:54] China's clinical-trial flywheel vs. slow-motion American loss.
[1:00:28] The bicoastal biotech ethos.
[1:01:41] Can the FDA actually pull this off?
[1:05:46] The Sophie's Choice of pharma development.
[1:07:48] Lost arts of founder mode.
[1:09:03] Rockets for tumors, T-cells, and beyond.
[1:12:45] Viral in policy circles.
[1:16:55] The Washington Post headline and the PickFu split test.
[1:21:53] Solution-first storytelling.
[1:28:01] RNA Medicine and Platform Therapeutics.
[1:33:41] Moderna's 62 days.
[1:35:08] Uber Eats and the de-risked launch.
[1:38:39] CEO blockers.
[1:40:14] Where's biotech's SpaceX moment?
[1:41:14] Elon Musk betting black on the wheel.
[1:46:21] AWS and the post-conviction/pre-consensus window.
[1:53:20] COVID politicization.
[1:54:20] Insulin, growth hormone, and the original platform story.
[1:56:10] Biotech as pharma's little brother.
[1:58:04] More recent role models, Apple edition.
[1:59:22] Art Levinson, Steve Jobs, and the biotech-tech crossover.
[2:00:58] The iPhone as a delivery platform.
[2:03:00] Spotify's problem and the future of bespoke medicine.
[2:04:41] Baby KJ and the limits of liver-only solutions.
[2:05:56] Parting thoughts.
https://x.com/tferriss
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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8:37
Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Sami Inkinen a Finnish-born, Stanford-trained entrepreneur and the founder and CEO/president of Trulia and Virta Health. Virta is on a mission to reverse metabolic disease in one billion people using technology, AI, and nutrition. A world-class endurance athlete, Sami is a triathlon age-group world champion and an 8-hour, 24-minute Ironman finisher, having completed the Hawaii Ironman World Championship seven times.
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DISCLAIMER:
The content of this episode is for informational purposes only. Neither Sami Inkinen nor Tim Ferriss is a medical professional, and nothing discussed here should be taken as medical advice or a substitute for consultation with a qualified healthcare provider.
[00:00] Preview.
[00:34] How Sami uses 15 minutes every Sunday to outrun the universe.
[02:26] Virta: at a thousand employees and counting.
[03:05] The 5 a.m. boot-up: cold lake, core work, and emptying the dishwasher.
[05:35] Why mood follows movement before the brain even boots up.
[10:41] Saying no to 99% of what "normal people" do.
[15:21] The weekly architecture.
[16:23] Two direct reports: the case for radical subtraction.
[17:01] 553 CEO letters and the case for one scalable habit.
[28:40] The text-file life plan.
[29:43] The 15-year personal plan Sami stumbled into by accident.
[30:44] The four-pillar formula for not cracking in 26 years of founder life.
[34:25] What "white Japanese people" and beer steins in saunas have in common.
[40:30] Smoke saunas, löyly, and the one Finnish word worth knowing.
[43:12] The lean, ten-percent-body-fat triathlete who was quietly going prediabetic.
[47:42] Why 93% of American adults are metabolically unhealthy.
[50:40] Reversing type 2 diabetes the way Virta actually does it.
[54:51] Most surprising interventions.
[58:08] The pancreatic cancer trial that bought patients 35% more time.
[1:01:40] The McDonald's protocol: how to reverse diabetes from the drive-thru.
[1:10:31] Why GLP-1 adherence collapses and Virta's doesn't.
[1:15:37] Vegans, tofu, and the hardest macronutrient to get right.
[1:20:04] The dose-response curve that lets perfect stop being the enemy of progress.
[1:24:25] VO2 max blocks: how Sami trains an 80+ engine without burning out.
[1:37:12] Hacking 10% off your running speed in four weeks.
[1:41:32] Progressive overload, specificity, and the case against the long ride.
[1:45:28] 45 days, three hours, and a contract to keep a marriage afloat.
[1:50:55] The lightning strike in the middle of the Pacific that started a family.
[1:56:46] The 36-year-old who bought his first car only because his wife made him.
[2:01:12] The book recommendation no one saw coming: Trejo.
[2:03:24] The PSA: chronic, progressive, and irreversible — three words Sami refuses.
[2:07:13] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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2:11:39
Sami Inkinen a Finnish-born, Stanford-trained entrepreneur and the founder and CEO/president of Trulia and Virta Health. Virta is on a mission to reverse metabolic disease in one billion people using technology, AI, and nutrition. A world-class endurance athlete, Sami is a triathlon age-group world champion and an 8-hour, 24-minute Ironman finisher, having completed the Hawaii Ironman World Championship seven times.
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Wealthfront disclaimer: New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). Terms and conditions apply. The Cash Account offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC (“WFB”) member FINRA/SIPC, not a bank. The base APY as of 1/30/26 is representative, can change, and requires no minimum. Tim Ferriss, a non-client, receives compensation from WFB for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of WFB, which creates a conflict of interest. Individual experiences and outcomes will differ. Instant withdrawals may be limited by your receiving firm and other factors. Investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisers LLC, an SEC-registered investment adviser. Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.
DISCLAIMER:
The content of this episode is for informational purposes only. Neither Sami Inkinen nor Tim Ferriss is a medical professional, and nothing discussed here should be taken as medical advice or a substitute for consultation with a qualified healthcare provider.
[00:00] Preview.
[00:34] How Sami uses 15 minutes every Sunday to outrun the universe.
[02:26] Virta: at a thousand employees and counting.
[03:05] The 5 a.m. boot-up: cold lake, core work, and emptying the dishwasher.
[05:35] Why mood follows movement before the brain even boots up.
[10:41] Saying no to 99% of what "normal people" do.
[15:21] The weekly architecture.
[16:23] Two direct reports: the case for radical subtraction.
[17:01] 553 CEO letters and the case for one scalable habit.
[28:40] The text-file life plan.
[29:43] The 15-year personal plan Sami stumbled into by accident.
[30:44] The four-pillar formula for not cracking in 26 years of founder life.
[34:25] What "white Japanese people" and beer steins in saunas have in common.
[40:30] Smoke saunas, löyly, and the one Finnish word worth knowing.
[43:12] The lean, ten-percent-body-fat triathlete who was quietly going prediabetic.
[47:42] Why 93% of American adults are metabolically unhealthy.
[50:40] Reversing type 2 diabetes the way Virta actually does it.
[54:51] Most surprising interventions.
[58:08] The pancreatic cancer trial that bought patients 35% more time.
[1:01:40] The McDonald's protocol: how to reverse diabetes from the drive-thru.
[1:10:31] Why GLP-1 adherence collapses and Virta's doesn't.
[1:15:37] Vegans, tofu, and the hardest macronutrient to get right.
[1:20:04] The dose-response curve that lets perfect stop being the enemy of progress.
[1:24:25] VO2 max blocks: how Sami trains an 80+ engine without burning out.
[1:37:12] Hacking 10% off your running speed in four weeks.
[1:41:32] Progressive overload, specificity, and the case against the long ride.
[1:45:28] 45 days, three hours, and a contract to keep a marriage afloat.
[1:50:55] The lightning strike in the middle of the Pacific that started a family.
[1:56:46] The 36-year-old who bought his first car only because his wife made him.
[2:01:12] The book recommendation no one saw coming: Trejo.
[2:03:24] The PSA: chronic, progressive, and irreversible — three words Sami refuses.
[2:07:13] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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10:10
Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Wealthfront disclaimer: New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). Terms and conditions apply. The Cash Account offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC (“WFB”) member FINRA/SIPC, not a bank. The base APY as of 1/30/26 is representative, can change, and requires no minimum. Tim Ferriss, a non-client, receives compensation from WFB for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of WFB, which creates a conflict of interest. Individual experiences and outcomes will differ. Instant withdrawals may be limited by your receiving firm and other factors. Investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisers LLC, an SEC-registered investment adviser. Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Jerzy Gregorek is a 4x World Weightlifting Champion, co-founder of UCLA’s weightlifting team, and co-creator, with his wife Aniela, of the Happy Body program. You can watch Prisoner No More for free here: https://tim.blog/hardchoices. To fill out the form on Cerebral Palsy Research Project, visit https://tim.blog/cp.
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[00:35] The transformation I've been chasing for a decade.
[01:49] When an unstoppable coach meets an immovable cerebral palsy diagnosis.
[03:46] Three pounds to 170: the bench press that woke a brain up.
[06:26] One year in, the first real conversation lands.
[09:51] Treadmills exhaust, athletes progress: why physical therapy stalled where coaching took off.
[15:02] Lethargy, sleeping in the car, and the quiet power of resting energy.
[16:19] The 16-inch box that opened the bathroom door — and everything after.
[20:28] Certificates, restaurant ceremonies, and writing history onto a blank brain.
[25:22] Parental dedication and appreciation.
[28:03] The adulthood gambit: quit piano, quit training — if you can stick an 18-inch jump.
[31:24] License plates as the gateway drug from counting to math five hours a day.
[36:19] Coaching that doesn't court approval.
[39:06] Genghis Khan vs. Admiral Yi Sun-Sin.
[42:55] The pitch: 25 patients, five years, and a method built to be replicated.
[1:02:16] Hard choices, easy life — and the call to find your starting point.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:10:54
Jerzy Gregorek is a 4x World Weightlifting Champion, co-founder of UCLA’s weightlifting team, and co-creator, with his wife Aniela, of the Happy Body program. You can watch Prisoner No More for free here: https://tim.blog/hardchoices. To fill out the form on Cerebral Palsy Research Project, visit https://tim.blog/cp.
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[00:00] Preview
[00:35] The transformation I've been chasing for a decade.
[01:49] When an unstoppable coach meets an immovable cerebral palsy diagnosis.
[03:46] Three pounds to 170: the bench press that woke a brain up.
[06:26] One year in, the first real conversation lands.
[09:51] Treadmills exhaust, athletes progress: why physical therapy stalled where coaching took off.
[15:02] Lethargy, sleeping in the car, and the quiet power of resting energy.
[16:19] The 16-inch box that opened the bathroom door — and everything after.
[20:28] Certificates, restaurant ceremonies, and writing history onto a blank brain.
[25:22] Parental dedication and appreciation.
[28:03] The adulthood gambit: quit piano, quit training — if you can stick an 18-inch jump.
[31:24] License plates as the gateway drug from counting to math five hours a day.
[36:19] Coaching that doesn't court approval.
[39:06] Genghis Khan vs. Admiral Yi Sun-Sin.
[42:55] The pitch: 25 patients, five years, and a method built to be replicated.
[1:02:16] Hard choices, easy life — and the call to find your starting point.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Prisoner No More follows Tae Jin Park, a young man diagnosed with cerebral palsy, who dismantled every physical limitation medical science predicted for him. Through athletic training under Olympian strength coach Jerzy Gregorek—and an uncompromising commitment to identity transformation—Tae Jin's story redefines what the human body and mind are capable of.
Learn more: https://wolfeprideproductions.com/
Directed By Jeff Wolfe
Starring Jerzy Gregorek & Tae Jin Park
Produced By Carole Middleton
Published with permission from Jeff Wolfe. To help Jeff turn PRISONER NO MORE into a series, contact him here: https://www.jeffwolfedirector.com/
Jeff Wolfe is a director, writer, and producer with decades of experience across feature films, documentaries, and branded content. His work combines cinematic precision with emotionally resonant storytelling built for global audiences.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Prisoner No More follows Tae Jin Park, a young man diagnosed with cerebral palsy, who dismantled every physical limitation medical science predicted for him. Through athletic training under Olympian strength coach Jerzy Gregorek—and an uncompromising commitment to identity transformation—Tae Jin's story redefines what the human body and mind are capable of.
Learn more: https://wolfeprideproductions.com/
Directed By Jeff Wolfe
Starring Jerzy Gregorek & Tae Jin Park
Produced By Carole Middleton
Published with permission from Jeff Wolfe. To help Jeff turn PRISONER NO MORE into a series, contact him here: https://www.jeffwolfedirector.com/
Jeff Wolfe is a director, writer, and producer with decades of experience across feature films, documentaries, and branded content. His work combines cinematic precision with emotionally resonant storytelling built for global audiences.
Watch my interview with Jerzy Gregorek:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBujS3ACNQY
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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12:09
Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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7:11
Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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10:10
Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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[00:31] What's the "AI personal IPO" that just quietly happened across Silicon Valley?
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[04:59] The compute ceiling: Why Korean memory fabs are the unlikely bottleneck throttling every AI lab on earth.
[09:25] The fastest revenue ramps in the history of capitalism.
[12:15] The dot-com survival rate was one in 100. Buckle up, AI founders.
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[16:27 Durable advantage — and why the AI market is an oligopoly (for now).
[19:08] Exit options for AI founders: labs, hyperscalers, vertical players, and the underrated merger of equals.
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[24:49] Elad's revisionist genesis story.
[25:55] Go where the cluster is: 91% of global AI private market cap lives in a 10x10 mile square.
[28:35] The accidental investor: Patrick Collison walks, Airbnb intros, and deals that just happened.
[29:55] Want money? Ask for advice. Want advice? Ask for money.
[30:19] The High Growth Handbook: Tactical guide, not bedtime reading.
[31:02] Market first, team second (usually)
[33:00] AlexNet and the transformative GPT-3 moment.
[37:53] AI cold-reading: Feeding photos to the model and getting eerily accurate personality reads.
[41:40] A retrospective on Elad's own investing.
[44:55] Power laws are terrifying: 10 companies, 80% of returns, two decades.
[48:40] Avoiding science projects, and how SPACs accidentally saved hard tech investing.
[52:03] The one-belief framework: Coinbase = crypto index. Stripe = e-commerce index. That's the whole memo.
[53:40] Due diligence theater vs. the one question that actually matters.
[54:59] The four-year vest is a relic: How venture capital ate growth investing.
[59:56] Boards as in-laws: You can't fire them, so choose wisely.
[01:02:30] "Valuation is temporary. Control is forever." — Naval Ravikant
[01:04:16] How great companies actually grew: toolbars, name-targeted ads, and billions in distribution spend.
[01:08:24] Selling software vs. selling labor hours: The real shift generative AI made.
[01:11:33] Spotting a great market: regulatory shifts, technology shifts, and Hashi getting bought by IBM.
[01:14:22] Fake TAM, real TAM, and the Coke CEO who realized he wasn't in the soda business.
[01:15:46] Right now, consensus is just correct. Save the contrarianism for later.
[01:18:24] Market entry vs. market disruption: SpaceX launched rockets, then disrupted the internet.
[01:19:23] The four ways Elad learns
[01:20:23] Deep dive: ADHD, autism, and why diagnostic rates soared without more people actually having it.
[01:26:50] Longevity for realists: sleep, creatine, and maybe rapamycin when the real drugs arrive.
[01:33:52] Ibogaine, anesthesia, and the next frontier of bioelectric medicine.
[01:38:57] Elad's first-ever 10-year plan — and why making one changes everything.
[01:40:38] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:41:29
Elad Gil is CEO of Gil & Co, a multi-stage investment firm, holding company, and operating company working on the world’s most advanced technologies. Elad is a serial entrepreneur, operating executive, and investor or advisor to private companies, including AirBnB, Anduril, Coinbase, Figma, Instacart, OpenAI, SpaceX, and Stripe. He was previously VP of Corporate Strategy at Twitter and started mobile at Google. He was the founder and CEO of Mixerlabs and Color. Elad is the author of the bestseller High Growth Handbook: Scaling Startups from 10 to 10,000 People.
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[00:00] Preview.
[00:31] What's the "AI personal IPO" that just quietly happened across Silicon Valley?
[03:41] What top AI pay packages actually look like.
[04:59] The compute ceiling: Why Korean memory fabs are the unlikely bottleneck throttling every AI lab on earth.
[09:25] The fastest revenue ramps in the history of capitalism.
[12:15] The dot-com survival rate was one in 100. Buckle up, AI founders.
[15:30] Your value-maximizing window: Why the next 12–18 months may be as good as it gets.
[16:27 Durable advantage — and why the AI market is an oligopoly (for now).
[19:08] Exit options for AI founders: labs, hyperscalers, vertical players, and the underrated merger of equals.
[23:13] Math, biology, and intuitive leaps: Elad's pre-investing background.
[24:49] Elad's revisionist genesis story.
[25:55] Go where the cluster is: 91% of global AI private market cap lives in a 10x10 mile square.
[28:35] The accidental investor: Patrick Collison walks, Airbnb intros, and deals that just happened.
[29:55] Want money? Ask for advice. Want advice? Ask for money.
[30:19] The High Growth Handbook: Tactical guide, not bedtime reading.
[31:02] Market first, team second (usually)
[33:00] AlexNet and the transformative GPT-3 moment.
[37:53] AI cold-reading: Feeding photos to the model and getting eerily accurate personality reads.
[41:40] A retrospective on Elad's own investing.
[44:55] Power laws are terrifying: 10 companies, 80% of returns, two decades.
[48:40] Avoiding science projects, and how SPACs accidentally saved hard tech investing.
[52:03] The one-belief framework: Coinbase = crypto index. Stripe = e-commerce index. That's the whole memo.
[53:40] Due diligence theater vs. the one question that actually matters.
[54:59] The four-year vest is a relic: How venture capital ate growth investing.
[59:56] Boards as in-laws: You can't fire them, so choose wisely.
[01:02:30] "Valuation is temporary. Control is forever." — Naval Ravikant
[01:04:16] How great companies actually grew: toolbars, name-targeted ads, and billions in distribution spend.
[01:08:24] Selling software vs. selling labor hours: The real shift generative AI made.
[01:11:33] Spotting a great market: regulatory shifts, technology shifts, and Hashi getting bought by IBM.
[01:14:22] Fake TAM, real TAM, and the Coke CEO who realized he wasn't in the soda business.
[01:15:46] Right now, consensus is just correct. Save the contrarianism for later.
[01:18:24] Market entry vs. market disruption: SpaceX launched rockets, then disrupted the internet.
[01:19:23] The four ways Elad learns
[01:20:23] Deep dive: ADHD, autism, and why diagnostic rates soared without more people actually having it.
[01:26:50] Longevity for realists: sleep, creatine, and maybe rapamycin when the real drugs arrive.
[01:33:52] Ibogaine, anesthesia, and the next frontier of bioelectric medicine.
[01:38:57] Elad's first-ever 10-year plan — and why making one changes everything.
[01:40:38] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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[00:00] Preview.
[00:48] Cathy Lanier: from Tuxedo to the top.
[02:28] Dad vanishes; Mom holds the line (and takes shorthand to the TV).
[07:15] Bused into DC: straight-A student turns chronic truant.
[09:48] Married at 15, signed over for $100 off child support.
[12:07] The baby-in-the-crib wake-up call.
[14:09] GED by a single point; secretary by day, waitress by night.
[17:07] The Washington Post ad that changed everything.
[17:29] 1990 MPD: into the crack cocaine wars.
[20:35] Grandma's gospel: no excuses, damned for doing.
[18:17] Mount Pleasant riots: trial by brick, and a better-way epiphany.
[30:23] Donny Exum's nudge — and sergeant at 26.
[36:02] Being a woman on the '90s force: harassment and the 90-day dodge.
[44:33] Marion Barry exits, Chuck Ramsey enters.
[46:09] Lieutenant: the sweet spot. Captain: the desk (but keep the cuffs).
[52:05] 9/11 and the surprise transfer to Special Ops.
[53:26] Mentors lend confidence — and a counterterrorism bureau built from scratch.
[55:20] Live Sarin, VX, and training with bioweapons legends.
[57:40] Text the 50, get the 411: the tip line gambit.
[58:58] Cultivating sources: the white Escalade payoff.
[1:04:31] Attention to detail: OCD as a superpower.
[1:06:32] Teletubby pagers to smartphones — and the Thomas Maslin reckoning.
[1:10:58] NFL security: the scope of "everything."
[1:12:57] Red teaming, explained.
[1:14:43] NFL vs. MPD: diversity and complexity that goes to 11.
[1:17:16] The book club: The Tipping Point and Blink.
[1:19:26] Decisions under pressure — and with incomplete information.
[1:24:40] Billboard wisdom: it's not what happens, it's what you do.
[1:27:55] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:28:38
Cathy Lanier is the Chief Security Officer of the National Football League, where she oversees security across the league office and all 32 clubs. Before the NFL, she served as Chief of Police of Washington, D.C., from 2007 to 2016 — the first woman in the role and the longest-serving chief in the force's history — where her strategies helped cut violent crime by 21 percent even as the city's population grew 15 percent.
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Wealthfront disclaimer: New clients get 3.30% base APY from program banks + additional 0.75% boost for 3 months on your uninvested cash (max $150k balance). Terms and conditions apply. The Cash Account offered by Wealthfront Brokerage LLC (“WFB”) member FINRA/SIPC, not a bank. The base APY as of 1/30/26 is representative, can change, and requires no minimum. Tim Ferriss, a non-client, receives compensation from WFB for advertising and holds a non-controlling equity interest in the corporate parent of WFB, which creates a conflict of interest. Individual experiences and outcomes will differ. Instant withdrawals may be limited by your receiving firm and other factors. Investment advisory services provided by Wealthfront Advisers LLC, an SEC-registered investment adviser. Securities investments: not bank deposits, not bank-guaranteed or FDIC-insured, and may lose value.
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[00:00] Preview.
[00:48] Cathy Lanier: from Tuxedo to the top.
[02:28] Dad vanishes; Mom holds the line (and takes shorthand to the TV).
[07:15] Bused into DC: straight-A student turns chronic truant.
[09:48] Married at 15, signed over for $100 off child support.
[12:07] The baby-in-the-crib wake-up call.
[14:09] GED by a single point; secretary by day, waitress by night.
[17:07] The Washington Post ad that changed everything.
[17:29] 1990 MPD: into the crack cocaine wars.
[20:35] Grandma's gospel: no excuses, damned for doing.
[18:17] Mount Pleasant riots: trial by brick, and a better-way epiphany.
[30:23] Donny Exum's nudge — and sergeant at 26.
[36:02] Being a woman on the '90s force: harassment and the 90-day dodge.
[44:33] Marion Barry exits, Chuck Ramsey enters.
[46:09] Lieutenant: the sweet spot. Captain: the desk (but keep the cuffs).
[52:05] 9/11 and the surprise transfer to Special Ops.
[53:26] Mentors lend confidence — and a counterterrorism bureau built from scratch.
[55:20] Live Sarin, VX, and training with bioweapons legends.
[57:40] Text the 50, get the 411: the tip line gambit.
[58:58] Cultivating sources: the white Escalade payoff.
[1:04:31] Attention to detail: OCD as a superpower.
[1:06:32] Teletubby pagers to smartphones — and the Thomas Maslin reckoning.
[1:10:58] NFL security: the scope of "everything."
[1:12:57] Red teaming, explained.
[1:14:43] NFL vs. MPD: diversity and complexity that goes to 11.
[1:17:16] The book club: The Tipping Point and Blink.
[1:19:26] Decisions under pressure — and with incomplete information.
[1:24:40] Billboard wisdom: it's not what happens, it's what you do.
[1:27:55] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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5:08
Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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13:12
Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Brian Dean is the founder of Backlinko and Exploding Topics, both acquired by Semrush, which itself was recently acquired by Adobe for $1.9 billion. Brian's story starts exactly where a lot of great stories start: broke, directionless, and eating canned beef stew in his dad's basement during the 2008 financial crisis. He picked up a copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and took action. As is nearly always the case, his path wasn’t a straight line, but a series of winding turns, all fed by experiments. His journey includes failures, two successful exits, and a hard-won answer to the question most people never think to ask: what do you actually do with your freedom once you have it?
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[00:32] From PhD pipettes to Dad's basement to Jerry Springer.
[02:19] The 4-Hour Workweek finds its dream reader—marginal notes and all.
[03:48] A first product flops, free traffic beckons, plus SEO.
[05:26] The 200-domain AdSense empire (featuring two bald men hawking shampoo sites).
[07:36] Dreamlining: From "escape the basement" to "3k a month in Thailand."
[09:19] When Google's Panda update slapped the internet (and Brian's empire).
[10:27] Scared straight: Black hat to white hat via a hostel in Spain.
[13:01] Backlinko is born.
[15:00] The 200 ranking factors post: 25 hours of patent-digging, a million visitors.
[17:22] New rule: One post a month, 10x better than anything out there.
[18:16] Semrush comes knocking—Brian ignores the email.
[19:14] Legal Sea Foods: Taking celebratory shots while wondering where the contract is.
[20:50] Due diligence hell: Hunting down ghosted freelancers and the contractor commandments.
[24:51] SEC market-close rules vs. Brian's 10 p.m. bedtime.
[25:46] Post-acquisition: Hopping from one treadmill to the next.
[29:56] Backlinko on autopilot, boredom on full blast, and the chapter everyone skips.
[31:25] Exploding Topics: The paid newsletter mistake vs. the obvious SaaS play.
[34:30] Data-driven content and the ChatGPT user stats flywheel.
[36:54] Noah Kagan's advice: Double down on what works—then 10x down.
[38:24] Ready, Fire, Aim—the litmus test for would-be founders.
[40:06] Startup costs: $500 for Backlinko vs. $90k to acquire Exploding Topics.
[43:42] How love and a Craigslist apartment scam in Berlin landed Brian in Portugal.
[45:02] Geoarbitrage still works—just don't trust the 2007 pricing.
[46:40] Post-exit stress: Oura Ring at 2x baseline and the Algarve hard reset.
[48:37] Why founders who launch within a year of selling usually regret it.
[49:49] Tennis as the ultimate void-filler: Fun, fitness, community, and fresh air in one sport.
[51:10] The paradox of choice after exit: Structure, identity, and vertigo.
[53:15] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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54:20
Brian Dean is the founder of Backlinko and Exploding Topics, both acquired by Semrush, which itself was recently acquired by Adobe for $1.9 billion. Brian's story starts exactly where a lot of great stories start: broke, directionless, and eating canned beef stew in his dad's basement during the 2008 financial crisis. He picked up a copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and took action. As is nearly always the case, his path wasn’t a straight line, but a series of winding turns, all fed by experiments. His journey includes failures, two successful exits, and a hard-won answer to the question most people never think to ask: what do you actually do with your freedom once you have it?
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Find Brian on LinkedIn & YouTube:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianEdean/
YouTube: https://youtube.com/@BrianDean
https://backlinko.com/
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The 4-Hour Workweek:
https://www.amazon.com/4-Hour-Workweek-Escape-Live-Anywhere/dp/0307465357/?tag=offsitoftimfe-20
[00:00] Preview.
[00:32] From PhD pipettes to Dad's basement to Jerry Springer.
[02:19] The 4-Hour Workweek finds its dream reader—marginal notes and all.
[03:48] A first product flops, free traffic beckons, plus SEO.
[05:26] The 200-domain AdSense empire (featuring two bald men hawking shampoo sites).
[07:36] Dreamlining: From "escape the basement" to "3k a month in Thailand."
[09:19] When Google's Panda update slapped the internet (and Brian's empire).
[10:27] Scared straight: Black hat to white hat via a hostel in Spain.
[13:01] Backlinko is born.
[15:00] The 200 ranking factors post: 25 hours of patent-digging, a million visitors.
[17:22] New rule: One post a month, 10x better than anything out there.
[18:16] Semrush comes knocking—Brian ignores the email.
[19:14] Legal Sea Foods: Taking celebratory shots while wondering where the contract is.
[20:50] Due diligence hell: Hunting down ghosted freelancers and the contractor commandments.
[24:51] SEC market-close rules vs. Brian's 10 p.m. bedtime.
[25:46] Post-acquisition: Hopping from one treadmill to the next.
[29:56] Backlinko on autopilot, boredom on full blast, and the chapter everyone skips.
[31:25] Exploding Topics: The paid newsletter mistake vs. the obvious SaaS play.
[34:30] Data-driven content and the ChatGPT user stats flywheel.
[36:54] Noah Kagan's advice: Double down on what works—then 10x down.
[38:24] Ready, Fire, Aim—the litmus test for would-be founders.
[40:06] Startup costs: $500 for Backlinko vs. $90k to acquire Exploding Topics.
[43:42] How love and a Craigslist apartment scam in Berlin landed Brian in Portugal.
[45:02] Geoarbitrage still works—just don't trust the 2007 pricing.
[46:40] Post-exit stress: Oura Ring at 2x baseline and the Algarve hard reset.
[48:37] Why founders who launch within a year of selling usually regret it.
[49:49] Tennis as the ultimate void-filler: Fun, fitness, community, and fresh air in one sport.
[51:10] The paradox of choice after exit: Structure, identity, and vertigo.
[53:15] Parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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From my brand-new interview with Michelle Khare of Challenge Accepted. @MichelleKhare
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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1:29
From my brand-new interview with Michelle Khare of Challenge Accepted. @MichelleKhare
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
Follow Michelle: @MichelleKhare
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[00:00] A Fear Setting Preview.
[00:39] Challenge Accepted: The logline and why breakdowns stay in the edit.
[02:50] Growing up in Shreveport, LA: Movies, the AFI Top 100, and interning on Snitch.
[06:34] Podcasting: More work than meets the ear.
[18:43] Quality over quantity: 8–10 episodes a year, scarcity as strategy, and building a defensible moat.
[29:14] "Hard choices, easy life" — Jerzy Gregorek, calling the FAA 300 times, and why no one copies you when the barrier is insanity.
[33:11] Dartmouth to Google.org: the Fermi estimation faceplant and not getting the job.
[34:46] BuzzFeed as graduate school of the internet.
[38:16] My case against starting a company right out of school.
[41:57] The stolen book: Michelle pulls out a battered 2016 copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and reads her fear-setting chart aloud.
[45:43] "I've never designed my own rubric of success" — the nightmare, the repair plan, and what Michelle was putting off out of fear.
[51:35] Practicing poverty
[1:01:45] Kebab-shop destiny: meeting stunt coordinator Steve Brown in L.A. — now he does Avatar and straps Michelle to planes.
[1:03:48] Surface area for luck: Bill Gurley, Kevin Kelly's sleeping bag, and Seneca on voluntary discomfort.
[1:07:27] Coach, mentor, cheerleader: the three-person Formula One team you actually need.
[1:12:02] The art of the cold email — and cold-calling the FBI tip line to meet "The Hollywood Guy."
[1:16:33] Michelle's three-paragraph, six-sentence formula for emails that open any door.
[1:20:58] Tim's cold email playbook: the "via" trick, include your damn cell number, and why "Yo, Ferriss" is an auto-archive.
[1:31:06] The fake Tim Ferriss Podcast phishing scam: Zoom calls, screen access, and hijacked Facebook pages.
[1:35:46] Emailing Hank Green, Brandon Sanderson's unpublished novels, and why your first cold emails are just practice reps.
[1:41:32] Michelle's storytelling syllabus: Survivor, Snyder's Save the Cat, and peer review of whatever went viral last week.
[1:43:46] Jeff Probst: The GOAT host and secret Einstein of reality television.
[1:48:16] John McPhee's red-ink writing class at Princeton.
[1:53:54] Six Thinking Hats broke Michelle's pessimism; Radical Candor taught her how to give feedback.
[2:02:46] The slinky org chart: Seven full-timers that balloon to 50 for a shoot, then compress right back.
[2:17:13] Scope creep, saying no to big checks, and why Michelle has never hit creator burnout.
[2:26:49] My No Book teaser: 850 pages on renegotiating commitments and getting back on the wagon.
[2:29:55] The Mindy Kaling manifesto: @MindyKalingFan, The Office, and shattering expectations for Indian women in entertainment.
[2:37:19] Wishlist shout-out: Norland College, where Mary Poppins meets Secret Service.
[2:39:26] Episodes Michelle would pay to relive.
[2:44:24] Episodes Michelle would pay to skip.
[2:49:00] Seven marathons, seven continents, one week.
[2:54:06] Free Solo, Alex Honnold in the creepy van, and things both of us would never do.
[2:57:37] Books gifted most: Radical Candor, The Great CEO Within, and Adam Grant's Originals.
[2:58:21] Michelle's billboard.
[2:59:45] A primetime Emmy run and parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/
Follow the Tim Ferriss Podcast: https://tim.blog/podcast/
Visit the Tim Ferriss Blog: https://tim.blog/
Follow Tim Ferriss on Twitter: https://twitter.com/tferriss/
Follow Tim Ferriss on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/timferriss/
Like Tim Ferriss on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TimFerriss/
3:03:32
Daredevil Michelle Khare lives life to the extreme in Challenge Accepted, amassing more than 6 million followers and more than 1 billion views. Across the show, you'll see Michelle attempt everything from Tom Cruise’s Deadliest stunt to Harry Houdini’s water torture cell to trying to earn a black belt in taekwondo in only 90 days.
Follow Michelle: @MichelleKhare
This episode is brought to you by:
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AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim
[00:00] A Fear Setting Preview.
[00:39] Challenge Accepted: The logline and why breakdowns stay in the edit.
[02:50] Growing up in Shreveport, LA: Movies, the AFI Top 100, and interning on Snitch.
[06:34] Podcasting: More work than meets the ear.
[18:43] Quality over quantity: 8–10 episodes a year, scarcity as strategy, and building a defensible moat.
[29:14] "Hard choices, easy life" — Jerzy Gregorek, calling the FAA 300 times, and why no one copies you when the barrier is insanity.
[33:11] Dartmouth to Google.org: the Fermi estimation faceplant and not getting the job.
[34:46] BuzzFeed as graduate school of the internet.
[38:16] My case against starting a company right out of school.
[41:57] The stolen book: Michelle pulls out a battered 2016 copy of The 4-Hour Workweek and reads her fear-setting chart aloud.
[45:43] "I've never designed my own rubric of success" — the nightmare, the repair plan, and what Michelle was putting off out of fear.
[51:35] Practicing poverty
[1:01:45] Kebab-shop destiny: meeting stunt coordinator Steve Brown in L.A. — now he does Avatar and straps Michelle to planes.
[1:03:48] Surface area for luck: Bill Gurley, Kevin Kelly's sleeping bag, and Seneca on voluntary discomfort.
[1:07:27] Coach, mentor, cheerleader: the three-person Formula One team you actually need.
[1:12:02] The art of the cold email — and cold-calling the FBI tip line to meet "The Hollywood Guy."
[1:16:33] Michelle's three-paragraph, six-sentence formula for emails that open any door.
[1:20:58] Tim's cold email playbook: the "via" trick, include your damn cell number, and why "Yo, Ferriss" is an auto-archive.
[1:31:06] The fake Tim Ferriss Podcast phishing scam: Zoom calls, screen access, and hijacked Facebook pages.
[1:35:46] Emailing Hank Green, Brandon Sanderson's unpublished novels, and why your first cold emails are just practice reps.
[1:41:32] Michelle's storytelling syllabus: Survivor, Snyder's Save the Cat, and peer review of whatever went viral last week.
[1:43:46] Jeff Probst: The GOAT host and secret Einstein of reality television.
[1:48:16] John McPhee's red-ink writing class at Princeton.
[1:53:54] Six Thinking Hats broke Michelle's pessimism; Radical Candor taught her how to give feedback.
[2:02:46] The slinky org chart: Seven full-timers that balloon to 50 for a shoot, then compress right back.
[2:17:13] Scope creep, saying no to big checks, and why Michelle has never hit creator burnout.
[2:26:49] My No Book teaser: 850 pages on renegotiating commitments and getting back on the wagon.
[2:29:55] The Mindy Kaling manifesto: @MindyKalingFan, The Office, and shattering expectations for Indian women in entertainment.
[2:37:19] Wishlist shout-out: Norland College, where Mary Poppins meets Secret Service.
[2:39:26] Episodes Michelle would pay to relive.
[2:44:24] Episodes Michelle would pay to skip.
[2:49:00] Seven marathons, seven continents, one week.
[2:54:06] Free Solo, Alex Honnold in the creepy van, and things both of us would never do.
[2:57:37] Books gifted most: Radical Candor, The Great CEO Within, and Adam Grant's Originals.
[2:58:21] Michelle's billboard.
[2:59:45] A primetime Emmy run and parting thoughts.
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/
Follow the Tim Ferriss Podcast: https://tim.blog/podcast/
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A clip from another wide-ranging “Random Show” episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose!
In the full episode, we cover our recent Zen meditation retreat with Henry Shukman at Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, the fascinating science of vagus nerve stimulation, my recent back pain breakthrough, balance training tools, tendon-strengthening protocols from Swedish rock climber Emil Abrahamsson, the emerging research on photobiomodulation, urolithin A supplementation, blood flow restriction training, the Norwegian 4×4 protocol for cognitive longevity, podcast recommendations, vintage Japanese finds on Etsy, Kevin’s hummingbird feeder obsession, and much more.
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/
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6:23
A clip from another wide-ranging “Random Show” episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose!
In the full episode, we cover our recent Zen meditation retreat with Henry Shukman at Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, the fascinating science of vagus nerve stimulation, my recent back pain breakthrough, balance training tools, tendon-strengthening protocols from Swedish rock climber Emil Abrahamsson, the emerging research on photobiomodulation, urolithin A supplementation, blood flow restriction training, the Norwegian 4×4 protocol for cognitive longevity, podcast recommendations, vintage Japanese finds on Etsy, Kevin’s hummingbird feeder obsession, and much more.
This episode is brought to you by:
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
Sign up for "5-Bullet Friday" (Tim's free weekly email newsletter): https://go.tim.blog/5-bullet-friday-yt/
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A clip from another wide-ranging “Random Show” episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose!
In the full episode, we cover our recent Zen meditation retreat with Henry Shukman at Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, the fascinating science of vagus nerve stimulation, my recent back pain breakthrough, balance training tools, tendon-strengthening protocols from Swedish rock climber Emil Abrahamsson, the emerging research on photobiomodulation, urolithin A supplementation, blood flow restriction training, the Norwegian 4×4 protocol for cognitive longevity, podcast recommendations, vintage Japanese finds on Etsy, Kevin’s hummingbird feeder obsession, and much more.
This episode is brought to you by:
Eight Sleep Pod Cover 5 sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: https://EightSleep.com/Tim
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Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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5:40
A clip from another wide-ranging “Random Show” episode that I recorded with my close friend Kevin Rose!
In the full episode, we cover our recent Zen meditation retreat with Henry Shukman at Mountain Cloud Zen Center in Santa Fe, the fascinating science of vagus nerve stimulation, my recent back pain breakthrough, balance training tools, tendon-strengthening protocols from Swedish rock climber Emil Abrahamsson, the emerging research on photobiomodulation, urolithin A supplementation, blood flow restriction training, the Norwegian 4×4 protocol for cognitive longevity, podcast recommendations, vintage Japanese finds on Etsy, Kevin’s hummingbird feeder obsession, and much more.
This episode is brought to you by:
Eight Sleep Pod Cover 5 sleeping solution for dynamic cooling and heating: https://EightSleep.com/Tim
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AG1 all-in-one nutritional supplement: https://DrinkAG1.com/Tim
Tim Ferriss is one of Fast Company’s “Most Innovative Business People” and an early-stage tech investor/advisor in Uber, Facebook, Twitter, Shopify, Duolingo, Alibaba, and 50+ other companies. He is also the author of five #1 New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestsellers: The 4-Hour Workweek, The 4-Hour Body, The 4-Hour Chef, Tools of Titans and Tribe of Mentors. The Observer and other media have named him “the Oprah of audio” due to the influence of his podcast, The Tim Ferriss Show, which has exceeded one billion downloads and been selected for “Best of Apple Podcasts” three years running.
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