Stark showed up to the field with a lightweight plastic case. The soldiers asked for wood — because wood burns, and it’s cold in winter. Co-founder Uwe Horstmann on why Stark builds for the staff sergeant, not just the general.
#DefenseTech #Manufacturing
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Stark showed up to the field with a lightweight plastic case. The soldiers asked for wood — because wood burns, and it’s cold in winter. Co-founder Uwe Horstmann on why Stark builds for the staff sergeant, not just the general.
#DefenseTech #Manufacturing
Chase Lochmiller runs one of the most operationally complex companies in AI: Crusoe builds power plants, manufactures electrical equipment, operates gigawatt-scale data centers, and runs a managed AI cloud on top, all under one roof. He just closed a round at a $31 billion valuation, and he got there by selling off the Bitcoin mining business that was paying the bills.
Chase explains why Crusoe is modeled on Exxon, not a cloud provider, and why he partners with companies that look like competitors. He makes the case that a company that outgrows the person who got it there is the rule, not the exception, and that CEOs almost always fire too slowly. He also talks candidly about hiring a coach, working hard to become a polished speaker when it didn’t come naturally, and why the data center industry’s biggest problem is a marketing problem.
I meet with a group of Sequoia founder CEOs between 20 and 2,000 employees, and one of them told me his business is becoming dizzyingly complex beneath him. Chase has the clearest answer I’ve heard for how to hold that in your head.
And yes, we talk about summiting Everest.
0:00 – Introduction
2:12 – The boiling frog: how a founder holds a 2,000-person company in his head
8:16 – DRIs, the weekly staff meeting, and saying it until you're sick of it
11:19 – Urgency at scale: Elon's "change the world or die tomorrow" tension
14:55 – Startups die of suicide, not homicide
19:29 – Energy first: flared gas, Iceland hydro, and nuclear
23:26 – Bitcoin to AI was the plan all along
32:36 – Polish is learned: coaches, public speaking, and Felicis's self-improvement budget
37:48 – Firing too slowly, and when the company outgrows the person
42:39 – Welders and AI researchers, the data center backlash, and mining for bad news
50:54 – Everest: designing around the Khumbu Icefall's stochastic risk
57:31 – Brian's takeaways
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Chase Lochmiller runs one of the most operationally complex companies in AI: Crusoe builds power plants, manufactures electrical equipment, operates gigawatt-scale data centers, and runs a managed AI cloud on top, all under one roof. He just closed a round at a $31 billion valuation, and he got there by selling off the Bitcoin mining business that was paying the bills.
Chase explains why Crusoe is modeled on Exxon, not a cloud provider, and why he partners with companies that look like competitors. He makes the case that a company that outgrows the person who got it there is the rule, not the exception, and that CEOs almost always fire too slowly. He also talks candidly about hiring a coach, working hard to become a polished speaker when it didn’t come naturally, and why the data center industry’s biggest problem is a marketing problem.
I meet with a group of Sequoia founder CEOs between 20 and 2,000 employees, and one of them told me his business is becoming dizzyingly complex beneath him. Chase has the clearest answer I’ve heard for how to hold that in your head.
And yes, we talk about summiting Everest.
0:00 – Introduction
2:12 – The boiling frog: how a founder holds a 2,000-person company in his head
8:16 – DRIs, the weekly staff meeting, and saying it until you're sick of it
11:19 – Urgency at scale: Elon's "change the world or die tomorrow" tension
14:55 – Startups die of suicide, not homicide
19:29 – Energy first: flared gas, Iceland hydro, and nuclear
23:26 – Bitcoin to AI was the plan all along
32:36 – Polish is learned: coaches, public speaking, and Felicis's self-improvement budget
37:48 – Firing too slowly, and when the company outgrows the person
42:39 – Welders and AI researchers, the data center backlash, and mining for bad news
50:54 – Everest: designing around the Khumbu Icefall's stochastic risk
57:31 – Brian's takeaways
Two years after its founding, Stark has roughly 700 employees and strike drones in the field in Ukraine. CEO Uwe Horstmann and CTO Johannes Schaback argue that the real lesson of that war is not any single weapon: the innovation ecosystem behind it is the wonder weapon. They explain why Stark designs every system for mass manufacturing from day one, runs 10 to 15 programs like a venture portfolio, and views the staff sergeant who operates a system as just as important as the general who buys it. Johannes recounts the publicly reported failed trial that became a forging moment, as engineers worked around the clock at a freezing test range until they landed three consecutive hits. They discuss NATO’s principles of responsible AI use and the hard-coded constraints in Stark’s autonomy stack. And Uwe lays out his next big idea: defense contracts structured like cloud contracts with surge capacity built in, so production itself becomes deterrence.
Hosted by Pat Grady and Luciana Lixandru, Sequoia Capital
Chapters
0:00 – Introduction
1:03 – Billions in contracts in 18 months: Stark's four-part playbook
2:28 – The staff sergeant matters as much as the general, and wood beats plastic
7:42 – Why Europe is ready for a neo prime, and why procurement reform will last
11:45 – Startup DNA, venture-style programs, and "as complex as a washing machine"
16:27 – Born out of fire: the failed trial and the round-the-clock comeback
21:13 – Where Stark finds talent, and why defense is no longer off-limits
23:48 – Anatomy of a strike, from the wooden crate to the kill zone
27:22 – Vertical integration, multiple domains, and shifting left on manufacturing
32:53 – After the Hugging Face hack: guardrails on autonomous weapons
35:56 – Matching the primes on R&D and scaling to 700 people in two years
39:24 – Deterrence by contract, and Europe's next chapter with the US
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Two years after its founding, Stark has roughly 700 employees and strike drones in the field in Ukraine. CEO Uwe Horstmann and CTO Johannes Schaback argue that the real lesson of that war is not any single weapon: the innovation ecosystem behind it is the wonder weapon. They explain why Stark designs every system for mass manufacturing from day one, runs 10 to 15 programs like a venture portfolio, and views the staff sergeant who operates a system as just as important as the general who buys it. Johannes recounts the publicly reported failed trial that became a forging moment, as engineers worked around the clock at a freezing test range until they landed three consecutive hits. They discuss NATO’s principles of responsible AI use and the hard-coded constraints in Stark’s autonomy stack. And Uwe lays out his next big idea: defense contracts structured like cloud contracts with surge capacity built in, so production itself becomes deterrence.
Hosted by Pat Grady and Luciana Lixandru, Sequoia Capital
Chapters
0:00 – Introduction
1:03 – Billions in contracts in 18 months: Stark's four-part playbook
2:28 – The staff sergeant matters as much as the general, and wood beats plastic
7:42 – Why Europe is ready for a neo prime, and why procurement reform will last
11:45 – Startup DNA, venture-style programs, and "as complex as a washing machine"
16:27 – Born out of fire: the failed trial and the round-the-clock comeback
21:13 – Where Stark finds talent, and why defense is no longer off-limits
23:48 – Anatomy of a strike, from the wooden crate to the kill zone
27:22 – Vertical integration, multiple domains, and shifting left on manufacturing
32:53 – After the Hugging Face hack: guardrails on autonomous weapons
35:56 – Matching the primes on R&D and scaling to 700 people in two years
39:24 – Deterrence by contract, and Europe's next chapter with the US
Robotics never got the internet's gift of free training data, so someone has to manufacture it. Josh Gao, founder and CEO of Mecka AI, runs one of the largest robot data factories, and he explains what that actually involves: custom baseball caps and tactile gloves because nothing off the shelf captures force, 100-gigabit upload lines to move hundreds of petabytes, and custom quality gates. Josh lays out the training recipe the industry is converging on (roughly a million hours of egocentric human data, tens of thousands of hours of robot data, and a few hours of in-domain teleop ) and why tactile and simulation data still have to enter the "data pot of soup." He argues the field is still orders of magnitude behind Tesla's FSD, which spent a decade on two degrees of freedom while a robot hand has dozens. His take: there won't be a single GPT-3 moment for robotics, but a steady unlock of commercial tasks, starting with constrained industrial work and ending, he hopes, with robots mining asteroids.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:46 – What Mecka is: pixels, actions and logic
2:45 – Is robot data economically feasible without the internet?
4:15 – Teaching robots about carbon life
5:27 – Cloud kitchens, stablecoins and the path to robotics
7:03 – Entering robotics with a fresh lens
8:45 – What egocentric data is and why Mecka bet on it
10:09 – The first pilot: aunties and uncles with a mobile app
10:42 – Force data and tactile gloves
11:55 – Inside the operations of a data factory
14:41 – Heat-mapping the taxonomy of human work
15:42 – Quality gates, fraud and the McDonald’s POV videos
17:44 – Earning a margin as a data intermediary
19:33 – Millions of hours vs. Tesla’s decade
20:55 – Why it isn’t binary: unlocking commercial tasks along the way
22:02 – Home data is plentiful; home robots are the hardest
23:24 – Useful robots can be deployed today
24:35 – When robotics gets an FSD-style flywheel
26:42 – Deployment diffusion and the modern systems integrator
28:21 – Favorite vertical robot categories; mining an asteroid
30:08 – The hardware slate: Waymo-fying people
30:55 – EgoVerse
32:04 – The data pot of soup: the converged training mix
33:54 – Move 37 for robotics: AlphaGo and Federer
36:02 – World models and the training mix
36:58 – Will scaling the current mix get us to the promised land?
39:05 – Will the AGI labs steamroll robotics?
40:50 – Sci-fi roots and the Kawasaki Corleo
42:44 – How many robots in a decade?
45:12
Robotics never got the internet's gift of free training data, so someone has to manufacture it. Josh Gao, founder and CEO of Mecka AI, runs one of the largest robot data factories, and he explains what that actually involves: custom baseball caps and tactile gloves because nothing off the shelf captures force, 100-gigabit upload lines to move hundreds of petabytes, and custom quality gates. Josh lays out the training recipe the industry is converging on (roughly a million hours of egocentric human data, tens of thousands of hours of robot data, and a few hours of in-domain teleop ) and why tactile and simulation data still have to enter the "data pot of soup." He argues the field is still orders of magnitude behind Tesla's FSD, which spent a decade on two degrees of freedom while a robot hand has dozens. His take: there won't be a single GPT-3 moment for robotics, but a steady unlock of commercial tasks, starting with constrained industrial work and ending, he hopes, with robots mining asteroids.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:46 – What Mecka is: pixels, actions and logic
2:45 – Is robot data economically feasible without the internet?
4:15 – Teaching robots about carbon life
5:27 – Cloud kitchens, stablecoins and the path to robotics
7:03 – Entering robotics with a fresh lens
8:45 – What egocentric data is and why Mecka bet on it
10:09 – The first pilot: aunties and uncles with a mobile app
10:42 – Force data and tactile gloves
11:55 – Inside the operations of a data factory
14:41 – Heat-mapping the taxonomy of human work
15:42 – Quality gates, fraud and the McDonald’s POV videos
17:44 – Earning a margin as a data intermediary
19:33 – Millions of hours vs. Tesla’s decade
20:55 – Why it isn’t binary: unlocking commercial tasks along the way
22:02 – Home data is plentiful; home robots are the hardest
23:24 – Useful robots can be deployed today
24:35 – When robotics gets an FSD-style flywheel
26:42 – Deployment diffusion and the modern systems integrator
28:21 – Favorite vertical robot categories; mining an asteroid
30:08 – The hardware slate: Waymo-fying people
30:55 – EgoVerse
32:04 – The data pot of soup: the converged training mix
33:54 – Move 37 for robotics: AlphaGo and Federer
36:02 – World models and the training mix
36:58 – Will scaling the current mix get us to the promised land?
39:05 – Will the AGI labs steamroll robotics?
40:50 – Sci-fi roots and the Kawasaki Corleo
42:44 – How many robots in a decade?
Single-player Go would be the most boring game imaginable. David Silver on what happens the moment you add a second agent, and why simple environments can produce endless learning.
#Go #AlphaGo #AI #ReinforcementLearning
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Single-player Go would be the most boring game imaginable. David Silver on what happens the moment you add a second agent, and why simple environments can produce endless learning.
#Go #AlphaGo #AI #ReinforcementLearning
David Silver on simple objectives in complex worlds: how evolution got all of life from a fitness signal, and how humans went from coordinating to communicating to trading to science.
#ReinforcementLearning #AI #Emergence
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David Silver on simple objectives in complex worlds: how evolution got all of life from a fitness signal, and how humans went from coordinating to communicating to trading to science.
#ReinforcementLearning #AI #Emergence
Ineffable Intelligence's mission is to build a super learner: a system that starts knowing nothing and discovers knowledge beyond what humans know. David Silver on why humans are the only existence proof.
#AI #Superintelligence #ReinforcementLearning
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Ineffable Intelligence's mission is to build a super learner: a system that starts knowing nothing and discovers knowledge beyond what humans know. David Silver on why humans are the only existence proof.
#AI #Superintelligence #ReinforcementLearning
If you need a gigawatt at 99.99% reliability, you need one-plus-one redundancy, which means building two gigawatts, ideally clean, ideally right next to the data center. Amin Vahdat, head of AI infrastructure at Google, on the statistical multiplexing argument for partnering with utilities instead: spread the risk over a much larger base, feed power back to the grid at peak residential demand, and Google, the grid and the neighbors all win.
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If you need a gigawatt at 99.99% reliability, you need one-plus-one redundancy, which means building two gigawatts, ideally clean, ideally right next to the data center. Amin Vahdat, head of AI infrastructure at Google, on the statistical multiplexing argument for partnering with utilities instead: spread the risk over a much larger base, feed power back to the grid at peak residential demand, and Google, the grid and the neighbors all win.
David Silver on what happened when his team gave up human data, and why he says LLM labs are "human-in-the-loop learning algorithms with thousands of people in the loop."
#AlphaZero #AlphaGo #AI #ReinforcementLearning
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David Silver on what happened when his team gave up human data, and why he says LLM labs are "human-in-the-loop learning algorithms with thousands of people in the loop."
#AlphaZero #AlphaGo #AI #ReinforcementLearning
David Silver spent two years building AlphaGo on human data. When he removed human data altogether building AlphaGo Zero, the AI surpassed AlphaGo in under two days. He left DeepMind to run that same bet in pursuit of superintelligence. David and Lasse Espeholt, co-founders of Ineffable Intelligence, explain their plan to build a “superlearner”—an agent that starts knowing nothing and discovers science, mathematics, and language for itself by direct experience instead of through a pre-training run. Silver argues that human-language reasoning is a ceiling, not a foundation, that alignment via chain-of-thought monitoring is already reaching its limits, and that the science of how superintelligences coexist should be worked out in simulation before anything touches the real world. Espeholt describes the GPU cluster and the lineage from IMPALA and SEED RL that makes the experiment possible. Silver’s forecast: strong evidence within a year, superintelligence in three.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:09 – What held true from Go to today, and what the LLM era changed
3:35 – Why leave DeepMind to start a new lab
5:58 – Why "Ineffable" (and the secret second reason)
7:03 – Lasse's path: scaling RL at DeepMind and Google Brain
9:31 – Defining a super learner and first contact
12:35 – Super learners vs. LLMs that make discoveries
13:59 – Day to day: the RL stack, crucibles and human-journey milestones
16:13 – Don't breadcrumb the objective: simple rewards, emergent complexity
21:16 – What a crucible looks like
24:14 – Go: one agent is boring, two is infinite
25:41 – Will agents rediscover language?
27:22 – Removing human priors: AlphaGo to AlphaZero
32:05 – Keeping human bias out of the crucibles
33:35 – Confidence, timing and super forecasting
36:24 – Is compute the driver?
38:13 – The ceiling on simulation and Rich Sutton's objection
43:44 – Alignment and the science of superintelligence
47:45 – Monitoring agents that don't think in English
51:01 – Pacing the frontier
52:54 – The compute setup: Vera Rubin on GCP
55:18 – Training, inference, simulation and RL scaling laws
57:40 – IMPALA and SEED RL
1:00:58 – 20 people and the compute-per-person ratio
1:04:49 – A research-led culture
1:05:47 – Predictions
1:08:03
David Silver spent two years building AlphaGo on human data. When he removed human data altogether building AlphaGo Zero, the AI surpassed AlphaGo in under two days. He left DeepMind to run that same bet in pursuit of superintelligence. David and Lasse Espeholt, co-founders of Ineffable Intelligence, explain their plan to build a “superlearner”—an agent that starts knowing nothing and discovers science, mathematics, and language for itself by direct experience instead of through a pre-training run. Silver argues that human-language reasoning is a ceiling, not a foundation, that alignment via chain-of-thought monitoring is already reaching its limits, and that the science of how superintelligences coexist should be worked out in simulation before anything touches the real world. Espeholt describes the GPU cluster and the lineage from IMPALA and SEED RL that makes the experiment possible. Silver’s forecast: strong evidence within a year, superintelligence in three.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:09 – What held true from Go to today, and what the LLM era changed
3:35 – Why leave DeepMind to start a new lab
5:58 – Why "Ineffable" (and the secret second reason)
7:03 – Lasse's path: scaling RL at DeepMind and Google Brain
9:31 – Defining a super learner and first contact
12:35 – Super learners vs. LLMs that make discoveries
13:59 – Day to day: the RL stack, crucibles and human-journey milestones
16:13 – Don't breadcrumb the objective: simple rewards, emergent complexity
21:16 – What a crucible looks like
24:14 – Go: one agent is boring, two is infinite
25:41 – Will agents rediscover language?
27:22 – Removing human priors: AlphaGo to AlphaZero
32:05 – Keeping human bias out of the crucibles
33:35 – Confidence, timing and super forecasting
36:24 – Is compute the driver?
38:13 – The ceiling on simulation and Rich Sutton's objection
43:44 – Alignment and the science of superintelligence
47:45 – Monitoring agents that don't think in English
51:01 – Pacing the frontier
52:54 – The compute setup: Vera Rubin on GCP
55:18 – Training, inference, simulation and RL scaling laws
57:40 – IMPALA and SEED RL
1:00:58 – 20 people and the compute-per-person ratio
1:04:49 – A research-led culture
1:05:47 – Predictions
Luca Ferrari is co-founder and CEO of Bending Spoons, a serial acquirer of AOL, Vimeo and Evernote, Airtable, etc, that buys to hold forever, and whose only real edge is that it operates software companies better than almost anyone else.
Bending Spoons got 800,000 job applications last year and hired fewer than 300 people. Luca runs hiring the way a quant runs a portfolio — hundreds of signals tested against future performance — and he's blunt about what the data says. Harvard and Stanford barely predict anything. Interviews are the worst signal in the process unless they're scripted. The best candidates were politically active as teenagers and stopped in their 20s. He hires for slope over experience, which is why a 25-year-old routinely shows up to run a company Bending Spoons just bought, and why he thinks experienced hires from big tech lose motivation and struggle to adapt. He also explains why Bending Spoons has no executive team, why the burden of proof always sits with whoever wants to add complexity, and why he stayed in Milan on purpose.
I called three founders whose companies Luca acquired before this interview. All three, unprompted, said the same thing: exceptionally high integrity. His answer about where that comes from is the most honest closing I've had on this show.
Chapters:
0:00 – Introduction
1:13 – The Bending Spoons model: buy to hold forever, then rebuild from the ground up
8:07 – 800,000 applicants, fewer than 300 hires: industrializing talent density
13:45 – Hiring like a quant trader: hundreds of signals, scripted interviews
21:45 – Why strategy and talent trump org structure
25:34 – Leader or manager? Head in the clouds, feet on the ground, but never both at once
30:38 – Slope over experience: why 25-year-olds run the companies Bending Spoons buys
41:08 – Radical candor, the 360 that found Brian's bugs, and picking one flaw a year
47:00 – No exec team, no sacred org chart: whoever is CEO should rewrite the system
51:27 – Question everything, add nothing: the burden of proof is on whoever adds complexity
57:08 – Why Milan? The uncool is cool; the world needs more than one Silicon Valley
1:01:16 – Never lie, never omit: the high-integrity code
1:04:02 – Brian's takeaways
1:06:20
Luca Ferrari is co-founder and CEO of Bending Spoons, a serial acquirer of AOL, Vimeo and Evernote, Airtable, etc, that buys to hold forever, and whose only real edge is that it operates software companies better than almost anyone else.
Bending Spoons got 800,000 job applications last year and hired fewer than 300 people. Luca runs hiring the way a quant runs a portfolio — hundreds of signals tested against future performance — and he's blunt about what the data says. Harvard and Stanford barely predict anything. Interviews are the worst signal in the process unless they're scripted. The best candidates were politically active as teenagers and stopped in their 20s. He hires for slope over experience, which is why a 25-year-old routinely shows up to run a company Bending Spoons just bought, and why he thinks experienced hires from big tech lose motivation and struggle to adapt. He also explains why Bending Spoons has no executive team, why the burden of proof always sits with whoever wants to add complexity, and why he stayed in Milan on purpose.
I called three founders whose companies Luca acquired before this interview. All three, unprompted, said the same thing: exceptionally high integrity. His answer about where that comes from is the most honest closing I've had on this show.
Chapters:
0:00 – Introduction
1:13 – The Bending Spoons model: buy to hold forever, then rebuild from the ground up
8:07 – 800,000 applicants, fewer than 300 hires: industrializing talent density
13:45 – Hiring like a quant trader: hundreds of signals, scripted interviews
21:45 – Why strategy and talent trump org structure
25:34 – Leader or manager? Head in the clouds, feet on the ground, but never both at once
30:38 – Slope over experience: why 25-year-olds run the companies Bending Spoons buys
41:08 – Radical candor, the 360 that found Brian's bugs, and picking one flaw a year
47:00 – No exec team, no sacred org chart: whoever is CEO should rewrite the system
51:27 – Question everything, add nothing: the burden of proof is on whoever adds complexity
57:08 – Why Milan? The uncool is cool; the world needs more than one Silicon Valley
1:01:16 – Never lie, never omit: the high-integrity code
1:04:02 – Brian's takeaways
At 100,000-accelerator scale, something fails multiple times an hour, which is why Google's Chief Technologist for AI Infrastructure Amin Vahdat thinks FLOPS is a vanity metric. The metric that matters is what he calls goodput: the useful work a workload actually delivers through real failures. Amin walks through the calculus that split the TPU line into 8i and 8t for the first time, why the TPU's core primitives haven't changed since v1, and how Google and DeepMind co-design in the same rooms, intercepting chip architectures mid-flight before tape-out. He explains why long-horizon agents are sending demand for CPUs and storage through the roof alongside accelerators, how optical circuit switches reroute light to a spare rack in milliseconds, and why Google would rather wait on a utility than build its own gigawatt. We also cover orbital data centers and the multi-megawatt rack of 2036.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:47 – What makes a data center an AI data center
5:30 – Goodput, not FLOPS: holding yourself accountable when something fails every hour
11:52 – Doubling token capacity every six months, and where the gains actually come from
15:32 – The TPU bet: from a contrarian call in 2013 to splitting 8i and 8t
23:30 – The case for and against co-design
26:11 – Shoulder to shoulder with DeepMind: intercepting chips mid-flight
34:16 – Long-horizon agents change the shape of the data center
37:50 – Optical circuit switching and the state of networking
42:35 – Power is the binding constraint: utilities, gigawatts, and sizing a data center
49:23 – Training vs. serving clusters, seven-year-old TPUs, and open standards
58:29 – Orbital data centers and the supercomputer of 2036
1:04:27
At 100,000-accelerator scale, something fails multiple times an hour, which is why Google's Chief Technologist for AI Infrastructure Amin Vahdat thinks FLOPS is a vanity metric. The metric that matters is what he calls goodput: the useful work a workload actually delivers through real failures. Amin walks through the calculus that split the TPU line into 8i and 8t for the first time, why the TPU's core primitives haven't changed since v1, and how Google and DeepMind co-design in the same rooms, intercepting chip architectures mid-flight before tape-out. He explains why long-horizon agents are sending demand for CPUs and storage through the roof alongside accelerators, how optical circuit switches reroute light to a spare rack in milliseconds, and why Google would rather wait on a utility than build its own gigawatt. We also cover orbital data centers and the multi-megawatt rack of 2036.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:47 – What makes a data center an AI data center
5:30 – Goodput, not FLOPS: holding yourself accountable when something fails every hour
11:52 – Doubling token capacity every six months, and where the gains actually come from
15:32 – The TPU bet: from a contrarian call in 2013 to splitting 8i and 8t
23:30 – The case for and against co-design
26:11 – Shoulder to shoulder with DeepMind: intercepting chips mid-flight
34:16 – Long-horizon agents change the shape of the data center
37:50 – Optical circuit switching and the state of networking
42:35 – Power is the binding constraint: utilities, gigawatts, and sizing a data center
49:23 – Training vs. serving clusters, seven-year-old TPUs, and open standards
58:29 – Orbital data centers and the supercomputer of 2036
Starting a company is hard. Reinventing your company for AI as a public company with quarterly earnings results is even harder. Aaron Levie has pulled off the transition with Box and offers hard-won advice for founders. The cofounder and CEO of Box argues the value isn't only in the model; it's in the bridge from a model's raw capability to the actual workflow inside a bank, a law firm, or a pharma company. That's the case for the application layer, and Box is building it: an agent harness tuned so tightly to its own file system, permissions, and search that it beats handing the raw API to Claude or ChatGPT on both accuracy and latency. Aaron explains why token subsidies from the labs can't last, why you want a model-agnostic company routing your tokens rather than the one selling them, and why coding diffused fast while the rest of knowledge work won't. (There's no "give us your GitHub" for a sales rep.) His prediction: within five years, 90% of enterprise tokens go to work no human user ever initiated.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:55 – Are application companies the hottest neolabs?
6:56 – Will the labs move up the stack?
12:34 – Box and betting the company on AI
16:50 – Hero use cases: reading a million contracts and long-running agents
18:42 – Work slop: why AI code is embraced but AI content isn't
24:08 – Building Box's agentic harness and the evals that matter
27:23 – The state of the model race
29:25 – Open-weight model adoption in the enterprise
32:34 – Memory, continual learning, and what belongs in the weights
37:29 – Box Labs and systems of record in a world of agents
44:55 – Will chat be the dominant UI for enterprise AI?
48:00 – Why coding diffused fast and the rest of knowledge work hasn't
54:31 – Staying wired in, making a company AI-first, and what it takes to win
1:05:22
Starting a company is hard. Reinventing your company for AI as a public company with quarterly earnings results is even harder. Aaron Levie has pulled off the transition with Box and offers hard-won advice for founders. The cofounder and CEO of Box argues the value isn't only in the model; it's in the bridge from a model's raw capability to the actual workflow inside a bank, a law firm, or a pharma company. That's the case for the application layer, and Box is building it: an agent harness tuned so tightly to its own file system, permissions, and search that it beats handing the raw API to Claude or ChatGPT on both accuracy and latency. Aaron explains why token subsidies from the labs can't last, why you want a model-agnostic company routing your tokens rather than the one selling them, and why coding diffused fast while the rest of knowledge work won't. (There's no "give us your GitHub" for a sales rep.) His prediction: within five years, 90% of enterprise tokens go to work no human user ever initiated.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
0:00 – Introduction
1:55 – Are application companies the hottest neolabs?
6:56 – Will the labs move up the stack?
12:34 – Box and betting the company on AI
16:50 – Hero use cases: reading a million contracts and long-running agents
18:42 – Work slop: why AI code is embraced but AI content isn't
24:08 – Building Box's agentic harness and the evals that matter
27:23 – The state of the model race
29:25 – Open-weight model adoption in the enterprise
32:34 – Memory, continual learning, and what belongs in the weights
37:29 – Box Labs and systems of record in a world of agents
44:55 – Will chat be the dominant UI for enterprise AI?
48:00 – Why coding diffused fast and the rest of knowledge work hasn't
54:31 – Staying wired in, making a company AI-first, and what it takes to win
A Florida county couldn't explain a spike in flood rescues. The agent traced it: three consecutive days of a weather pattern, carving sand channels, creating perfect rip current conditions.
#ai #publicsafety
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A Florida county couldn't explain a spike in flood rescues. The agent traced it: three consecutive days of a weather pattern, carving sand channels, creating perfect rip current conditions.
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Nick Noone was flying in and out of Baghdad. Ben Rudolph was working refugee crises in Africa. In 2016 they decided to come together to work backwards to a single answer: safety sits at the bottom of the pyramid.
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Nick Noone was flying in and out of Baghdad. Ben Rudolph was working refugee crises in Africa. In 2016 they decided to come together to work backwards to a single answer: safety sits at the bottom of the pyramid.
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Flock, Axon, and most of public safety tech grew by owning the input. Nick Noone on why Peregrine inverted the entire model, and why the problem was never how much data an agency had.
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Flock, Axon, and most of public safety tech grew by owning the input. Nick Noone on why Peregrine inverted the entire model, and why the problem was never how much data an agency had.
#ai #flock #publicsafety
Most public safety technology companies grow by collecting more data. Peregrine inverted the model: no sensors, no new data, a business built on connecting the data and information cities already own. Co-founders Nick Noone and Ben Rudolph received more than two dozen no's before San Pablo PD let them in the door in February 2018. Today, Peregrine powers law enforcement, emergency medical services, fire and rescue, and other services in more than 400 cities and communities globally. Nick and Ben explain their north star for data sovereignty, and discuss how Peregrine's philosophy and privacy-first approach to data access and ownership preserves individual privacy and cities' sovereignty. They walk through how AI and long-horizon agents are being deployed: a cold case agent that reproduced an exoneration detectives had reached by hand, a Wisconsin county that placed a suspect using cell records buried in 300GB of evidence, identifying threats to a synagogue, root-causing an escalation in weather-related incidents, and more.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
00:00 Introduction
02:07 What Forward Deployed Engineering Means
03:58 What Silicon Valley Gets Wrong
05:23 UNHCR, Dimagi And Downstream Data Problems
08:25 Why Cities, Why Safety
10:45 Two Dozen Nos And San Pablo PD
14:19 Building Through Defund The Police
18:16 The Inversion Of The Collection Model
21:20 Data Ownership And Governance
22:57 From Nice Search To Deep Analysis
29:59 Agents Writing The Integrations
31:45 The Cold Case Agent
35:02 The Anti-Network-Effect Proposition
38:40 Facial Recognition And Hard Decisions
40:48 Technology For The Underdogs
42:54 Trusting The Individual Contributor
48:50 Ten Thousand Cities
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Most public safety technology companies grow by collecting more data. Peregrine inverted the model: no sensors, no new data, a business built on connecting the data and information cities already own. Co-founders Nick Noone and Ben Rudolph received more than two dozen no's before San Pablo PD let them in the door in February 2018. Today, Peregrine powers law enforcement, emergency medical services, fire and rescue, and other services in more than 400 cities and communities globally. Nick and Ben explain their north star for data sovereignty, and discuss how Peregrine's philosophy and privacy-first approach to data access and ownership preserves individual privacy and cities' sovereignty. They walk through how AI and long-horizon agents are being deployed: a cold case agent that reproduced an exoneration detectives had reached by hand, a Wisconsin county that placed a suspect using cell records buried in 300GB of evidence, identifying threats to a synagogue, root-causing an escalation in weather-related incidents, and more.
Hosted by Sonya Huang, Sequoia Capital
00:00 Introduction
02:07 What Forward Deployed Engineering Means
03:58 What Silicon Valley Gets Wrong
05:23 UNHCR, Dimagi And Downstream Data Problems
08:25 Why Cities, Why Safety
10:45 Two Dozen Nos And San Pablo PD
14:19 Building Through Defund The Police
18:16 The Inversion Of The Collection Model
21:20 Data Ownership And Governance
22:57 From Nice Search To Deep Analysis
29:59 Agents Writing The Integrations
31:45 The Cold Case Agent
35:02 The Anti-Network-Effect Proposition
38:40 Facial Recognition And Hard Decisions
40:48 Technology For The Underdogs
42:54 Trusting The Individual Contributor
48:50 Ten Thousand Cities