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跟随我们环游世界，寻找最佳经济理念带回家！ 从巴布达的海滩到挪威的峡湾，金钱（以及金钱问题）无处不在。在这个夏季旅行季，《金钱星球》暑期学校将带你开启一场听觉上的世界之旅。带上你的好奇心和冒险精神，这是我们的海外学期。我们将探索异国风情，发现文化习俗，同时也会静下心来，跟随我们的向导学习世界各地最重要的经济课程。 我们从距离《金钱星球》总部最远的地方——新西兰和澳大利亚——开始。我们将参观一个养羊场，观察一个创新但备受争议的市场，这个市场关乎地球上最重要的物质；我们还会探讨投机者何时帮助了我们，何时又伤害了我们。接着，我们将认识一位经济学家兼爵士音乐家，他通过发布一个秘密数字来驯服可怕的“野兽”，从而改变了全世界对抗通胀的方式。这是如何实现的？剧透：这是经济思维技巧的一次巨大飞跃。 精选剧集： • 《流动性市场》（2021年）（https://www.npr.org/2021/08/31/1032979418/liquid-markets） • 《秘密目标》（2018年）（https://www.npr.org/sections/money/2018/11/30/672366380/episode-879-the-secret-target） 精选术语： • 多重均衡 • 通胀目标制 • 投机者（对流动性的影响） 支持我们： • 《金钱星球+》（https://n.pr/3HlREPz） 阅读： • 我们的书：《金钱星球：塑造你生活的经济力量指南》（https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD）（有声书在此：https://open.spotify.com/show/509P7k1QPcwgzOSCqVCDCZ） • 我们的每周长篇《金钱星球》通讯（https://n.pr/3zrFvUB） • 我们的每周《指标》链接汇总通讯（https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator） 关注我们： • Instagram（https://n.pr/3FqLuws） • TikTok（https://n.pr/3sGZdrq） • YouTube（https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C） • Facebook（https://n.pr/3h92GwS） 本期《金钱星球》暑期学校由罗伯特·史密斯主持。由索菲亚·帕利扎-卡尔制作，西拉·华雷斯事实核查，黄安莉负责音频工程，罗伯特·罗德里格斯提供协助。 音乐：NPR源音频——《来自伊帕内玛的男孩》、《清理》、《长途驾驶》和《邦迪》。 关于我们为赞助目的收集和使用个人数据的信息，以及管理你的播客赞助偏好，请参见 pcm.adswizz.com（https://pcm.adswizz.com）。 NPR隐私政策（https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy）。

The landmark supreme source case Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission opened the floodgates for massive corporate spending in elections. Today, can a Montana ballot initiative pave the way for getting corporate money out of American elections?   Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –Can a "moneyball" system work for campaign funding? (http://lnk.to/pu8y4D) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Connecticut’s property tax system has been broken for decades and the politicians have failed to fix the problem. So now, they’re trying something new: a citizens assembly. (Citizens assemblies are also old. They go back to Ancient Greece, when lawmakers were chosen not through elections, but through random lotteries.)  Today on the show, Connecticut’s citizens assembly. It's like jury duty, but for taxes. About hundred random people (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU1P_OdsNnY) from all around Connecticut come together to try to solve the state’s property tax problem. They wrestle with whether they should raise taxes, cut spending, find efficiencies, or a mix of everything. Will this alternative attempt to solve the unsolvable succeed, or will it be politics as usual? It’s a modern case study of what happens when politicians step aside to let citizens decide what’s best. Come along as we talk to the professor who helped put this assembly together, learn from the citizens involved how this experiment changed them, and meet the politician who agreed to take their proposals to the state legislature.  Planet Money will be at Kilkenomics Festival 2026 (https://kilkenomics.com/speakers/part_01M0ZADM11ZBAKTJ7C7WRW7W52/) . Tickets here (https://kilkenomics.com/speakers/part_01M0ZADM11ZBAKTJ7C7WRW7W52/) . Read:  - Our book: Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD)   - Our weekly longform Planet Money newsletter (https://n.pr/3zrFvUB) - Our weekly Indicator round-up newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator) Follow:  - Instagram (https://n.pr/3FqLuws) - TikTok (https://n.pr/3sGZdrq) - YouTube (https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C) - Facebook (https://n.pr/3h92GwS) Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . This episode of Planet Money was hosted by Erika Beras and Jeff Guo. It was produced by James Sneed with reporting help from Áine Pennello (https://www.ctpublic.org/people/aine-pennello-1) . It was edited by Jess Jiang, Sierra Juarez is our fact-checker, and Jimmy Keeley & Travis Hagen engineered the show. Alex Goldmark is the executive producer of Planet Money.. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Does business school fix the world? Or does it just churn out consultants, bankers and tech workers? A professor and a dean debate the value of the modern-day MBA. Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  ––Are small town colleges going extinct? (https://lnk.to/95SN4WWE) ––Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Meta’s new AI agent Muse is one of the fastest-growing apps ever. It’s a big bet from a company spending billions to win the AI race. But what is the real cost of using this powerful, free AI product?  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –SNAP strains, youth baseball's class divide, and Meta's bug bounty (http://lnk.to/AueJDg) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

There are now more bots than humans online. What does that mean for how we experience the internet? Can bots and humans peacefully coexist online?   Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –Can the internet survive AI summaries? (https://lnk.to/L0rKSi)   –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

For years, police have spent billions of tax dollars on watching us, tracking us, and recording us. In the largest police department in the country, these surveillance systems were paid for and adopted without the kind of public oversight cities usually require.  In the wake of 9/11, the New York Police Department built one of the most sophisticated and omnipresent surveillance systems in the country.  And while decisions were being made about what tech to adopt and how much to pay for it, few outside the NYPD were consulted. Not the City Council nor the public. For over a decade, the only paper trail of these purchases were offline, stored in filing cabinets, inaccessible to the public.  Today on the show, how the country’s largest police department built its surveillance system, and the fight to get police everywhere to tell us how they’re watching us.  Read:  • Our book: Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD)   • Our weekly longform Planet Money newsletter (https://n.pr/3zrFvUB) • Our weekly Indicator round-up newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator) Follow:  • Instagram (https://n.pr/3FqLuws) • TikTok (https://n.pr/3sGZdrq) • YouTube (https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C) • Facebook (https://n.pr/3h92GwS) Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . This episode was produced by Vito Emanuel and edited by Marianne McCune. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez and engineered by Cena Loffredo. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer. Music: NPR Source Audio - "Funky Space Mama," "Sunday Lights," and "Blammo" See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

本周值得关注的指标：CoreWeave令人担忧的信用警告，一起宝可梦抢劫案，以及加拿大枫糖浆储备的枯竭。 事实核查：Cooper Katz McKim。 你的下一期收听 –为什么宝可梦卡比你的退休账户增长更快 (http://lnk.to/mvpqrZ) –NPR应用上超过2000集存档 (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) 联系《金钱星球》的《指标》栏目 –《指标》新闻通讯 (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — 每周新闻、观点和员工精选汇总。 –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en)、TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) 和 YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –查找《金钱星球》书籍 (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –查找《金钱星球》桌游《卖我一个大脚怪》(Sell Me A Sasquatch) (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) 以及NPR商店的其他商品 (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last)！ 支持公共媒体，请订阅NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney)，享受超过25个播客（如本节目）的额外福利。本节目的福利包括无广告收听。了解更多请访问 plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org)。 关于我们收集和使用个人数据用于赞助以及管理你的播客赞助偏好，请访问 pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com)。 NPR隐私政策 (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

选举比以往任何时候都更昂贵，但竞选捐款是否流向了能产生最大影响的竞选活动？今天，我们与Oath（https://app.oath.vote）的联合创始人交谈，他认为有更聪明的方式分配个人捐款。 事实核查由Sierra Juarez（https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez）完成。 您的下一集推荐 –政治竞选是如何变得如此昂贵的？ （http://lnk.to/y1IJ3M）–NPR App（https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325）档案中超过2000集 联系《来自金钱星球的指标》 –《指标》通讯（https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter）——每周新闻、创意和员工精选汇总。 –Instagram（https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en）、TikTok（https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney）和YouTube（https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar） –获取《金钱星球》书籍（https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE） –获取《金钱星球》桌游《卖给我一个大脚怪》（https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB）以及NPR商店（https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last）的其他商品！ 通过订阅NPR+（https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney）支持公共媒体，并享受包括本播客在内的超过25个播客的福利。本节目的福利包括无赞助商收听。了解更多信息请访问plus.npr.org（http://plus.npr.org）。 关于我们为赞助目的收集和使用个人数据以及管理您的播客赞助偏好的信息，请参见pcm.adswizz.com（https://pcm.adswizz.com）。 NPR隐私政策（https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy）

Should money and class figure more prominently in how we identify ourselves? Pulitzer Prize-winning data journalist Mona Chalabi thinks yes. Today on the show, a conversation with Mona, author of the forthcoming book Ten Lives: How What We Have Shapes Who We Are (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/676680/ten-lives-by-mona-chalabi/) . Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) .  Your Next Listen  –Chasing the American Dream at Outback Steakhouse (https://www.npr.org/2023/09/26/1197954357/the-indicator-from-planet-money-draft-09-26-2023) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money  –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Polling is facing an existential crisis. People aren't picking up the phone. Nobody wants to talk to pollsters. Trust is on the line. We pluck a solution from the economics canon and convince a polling firm to let us test it.  Today on the show, we head to Marist College — home of the Marist Poll — to learn how to be pollsters ourselves. We learn the great moments in polling history, the latest science of polling, and find out all the tricks that pollsters use to get people to finish their surveys. Then we get on the phone and give it a try ourselves. And offer some of our own solutions.  This episode was originally published (https://www.npr.org/2022/11/04/1134434712/planet-money-tries-election-polling) before the 2022 midterm elections.  We have an update on our idea to save polling, which Marist is still testing, and we find out what it might be able to tell us about the 2026 midterms.  Music: "Partyline (https://npr.sourceaudio.com/track/22447336) , "The Danzig Connection (https://npr.sourceaudio.com/track/38874305) , and "Saku (https://npr.sourceaudio.com/track/41204479) " Read:  Our book: Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD)   Our weekly longform Planet Money newsletter (https://n.pr/3zrFvUB) Our weekly Indicator round-up newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator) Follow:  Instagram (https://n.pr/3FqLuws) TikTok (https://n.pr/3sGZdrq) YouTube (https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C) Facebook (https://n.pr/3h92GwS) This update was produced by Emma Peaslee with help from Sam Yellowhorse Kesler. It was mastered by Gilly Moon with help from Cena Loffredo. The original episode was edited by Jess Jiang. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money’s executive producer. Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

The United States national debt is running at more than $40 trillion dollars. It’s a potential crisis in the making, but President Donald Trump suggested it can all be solved just by inflating the debt away. Today, we dig into the nitty gritty on how and when inflating the national debt could work. Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –Is the federal debt REALLY that bad? (https://www.npr.org/2024/04/30/1197964071/federal-debt-national-deficit) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Oracle, the multinational tech giant has taken on a lot of loans to build up its AI capacity. But Oracle’s investors are not happy with this piling debt load. We explain why Oracle is such a pivotal player — and potentially weak link — in the AI-fueled economy. Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –How the bond market is handling AI risk? (http://lnk.to/4ZfZB3) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

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Is AI coming for our jobs? Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei believes AI could wipe out many white-collar jobs in the next few years. While Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang argues AI will reshape existing roles and create even more jobs than we have now. So which future are we really facing: a job-pocalypse or a jobs transformation? For answers, join The Indicator's Adrian Ma for "Ask An Economist.” This is a virtual event and live Q&A featuring two economists who've studied this issue: Daron Acemoglu, a Nobel Prize-winning professor at MIT, and Erik Brynjolfsson, a professor at Stanford and director of the Stanford Digital Economy Lab. We’ll also invite you to ask questions and share your thoughts! It's Wednesday, October 28th, at 3:00pm ET, noon PT. This is a Zoom event exclusively for NPR+ and other qualifying supporters. For registration and event details, you can listen to this audio message or check out npr.org/askaneconomist (http://npr.org/askaneconomist) .  Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Before an independent movie makes it to a streaming platform or a theater near you, it first needs to survive an artistic and economic gauntlet. And even for those movies that make it into elite film festivals like Sundance – it can take everything from performance stunts to corporate spycraft to seal the deal. Today on the show, we follow the ‘King of Sundance’ as he and his team try to sell their slate of movies to distributors like Netflix and Sony and Apple. We hear the behind the scenes stories about how films like Little Miss Sunshine, Napoleon Dynamite and Precious got sold. And we learn the strategies that might make the difference in whether or not a film makes it onto screens around the world.  For more episodes about the entertainment industry:   "Based on a true story" (https://www.npr.org/2023/09/20/1197954107/gamestop-dumb-money-based-on) On the Oscars campaign trail (https://www.npr.org/2024/03/08/1197958441/oscars-academy-awards-campaign-for-your-consideration) Why platforms like HBO Max are removing streaming TV shows (https://www.npr.org/2023/03/06/1161382179/hbo-max-disappearing-shows-series-streaming-warner) The summer I turned binge-y (https://www.npr.org/2025/12/24/nx-s1-5646673/stranger-things-season-netflix-binge-drip-watching-tv) The Writers Revolt (UPDATE) (https://www.npr.org/2021/04/21/989626958/the-writers-revolt-update?renderPlatform=nprone_ios&unified=true) Read:  Our book: Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD)   Our weekly longform Planet Money newsletter (https://n.pr/3zrFvUB) Our weekly Indicator round-up newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator) Follow:  Instagram (https://n.pr/3FqLuws) TikTok (https://n.pr/3sGZdrq) YouTube (https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C) Facebook (https://n.pr/3h92GwS) Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . This episode of Planet Money was produced by Emma Peaslee. It was edited by Jess Jiang. It was fact checked by Sierra Juarez and engineered by Annlie Huang. Alex Goldmark is Planet Money’s executive producer. Music: NPR Source Audio - "Lone Star Desert Surfer," "The Westerners," and "Tucson Arizona" See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

This week’s indicators: Why is inflation so super (derogatory)? How did Bumble go from dating app doldrums to a stock market sweetheart?; And oh, bother! Could Winnie the Pooh be moving home to England from New York City? Fact checking by Leyla Doss. Your Next Listen  –Retiree benefits bump, credit repayment slump, and a dating app in the dumps (https://lnk.to/UBYcimWE) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

The 2026 midterm elections are fast approaching, and it’s gearing up to be the most expensive election in American history. So how did we get here, where every election feels more expensive than the last?  Today on the show, we’re exploring what’s causing the flood of money into our politics.  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –Bad economics, smart politics (https://www.npr.org/2024/09/16/1199975711/bad-economics-smart-politics) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Fifty years ago, scientists pioneering a terrifying gene-splicing technology figured out a way to collectively hit pause. Can we do it again with AI?  We ask because some top AI industry leaders are saying the technology they’re pushing forward is moving too quickly … and might kill us all. They’re effectively saying, ‘Please, please regulate us! Slow us down! Tie our hands!’  But, by and large, they’re not slowing down, because they don’t want to be left behind. In other words, it’s a classic collective action problem. A type of problem that’s scary, but solvable. We’ve been here before.  In 1975, a group of scientists holed up for four days on California's foggy Central Coast to stop the runaway technology of their generation: a new DNA splicing technology that they feared could cause mass death. On today’s show, how they set aside ambition and competition to stop a runaway technology.  Live Show:  • Planet Money Live at Kilkenomics. Kilkenny, Ireland Nov. 6th - 7th (https://kilkenomics.com/) Read Planet Money:  • Our book: Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD)   • Our weekly longform Planet Money newsletter (https://n.pr/3zrFvUB) • Our weekly Indicator round-up newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator) Follow Planet Money:  • Instagram (https://n.pr/3FqLuws) • TikTok (https://n.pr/3sGZdrq) • YouTube (https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C) • Facebook (https://n.pr/3h92GwS) Listen to more Planet Money:  • Our short, daily podcast, The Indicator from Planet Money (https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510325/the-indicator-from-planet-money) • Over 1,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510289) Merch:  • NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=planet+money&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) • The Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?_pos=1&_sid=c2996cc29&_ss=r) Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . This episode was produced by Vito Emanuel. It was edited by Marianne McCune and fact-checked by Sierra Juarez. It was engineered by Travis Hagan. Alex Goldmark is our executive producer.  Music: NPR Source Audio - "Left Coastingg," "Going Nuts," and "Unsatisfied Reflection" See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

A labyrinthine rebate process. Shrinking cereal boxes. Mystery rental car charges. Cockroaches?! We share listener tales of Consumer Rage and unpack the economic forces driving that ANGER. Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –Consumers are mad as hell and aren't gonna take it anymore (https://lnk.to/6oiD4uWE) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

This year's Nobel Prize for Economics went to American economists Robert E. Hall and Michael Woodford! Their research focused on macroeconomic models and economic shocks. But … How did we get a Nobel Prize in economics, or as it’s actually called, the more long-winded “Swedish Central Bank Prize in Economic Sciences in memory of Alfred Nobel”? And why did nearly 70 years pass between the first Nobel Prizes and a Nobel recognition for economics?  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –Why do we live in unusually innovative times? (https://lnk.to/tI1QJtWE) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Nearly 30 million bison once roamed North America, from modern Canada to Mexico. In the late 1800s, white settlers and the U.S. military annihilated the population of bison, bringing these creatures to the brink of extinction. The consequences for the people who relied on the bison were dire — and still being felt today. In an episode that first aired in August 2023, we spoke to one economist who reveals the shocking numbers (https://www.nber.org/papers/w30368#:~:text=In%20the%20late%20nineteenth%20century,a%20permanent%20reversal%20of%20fortunes.) about the destruction of the bison, and one member of the Blackfeet Nation who is trying to bring them back. Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . This episode originally aired Aug. 21, 2023. Your Next Listen –Blood, oil, and the Osage Nation: The battle over headrights (https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165619070/osage-headrights-killers-of-the-flower-moon-fletcher-lawsuit) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money  –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks.  –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar)   –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE)   –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) !  Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

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Companies are getting billions of dollars back. How about us?  It seems simple, right? We paid higher prices for imported goods because of tariffs. Then the tariffs were ruled illegal. Courts said the money paid to the U.S. government had to be refunded. Companies are getting that money now.  It would seem like we, the customers, should get paid back, too. But … it’s not so simple.  Once again, we’re dipping back into the drama of import tax law. We’re engrossed in the ups, downs, betrayal, and romance of … the Days of our Tariffs.  In this edition:  “Refunds and Regrets.”  How and why some companies and people are getting their IEEPA tariff refunds and other people are out of luck.  Live Show: - Planet Money Live at Kilkenomics. Kilkenny, Ireland Nov. 6th - 7th (https://kilkenomics.com/) Read Planet Money:  - Our book: Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD)   - Our weekly longform Planet Money newsletter (https://n.pr/3zrFvUB) - Our weekly Indicator round-up newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator) Follow Planet Money:  - Instagram (https://n.pr/3FqLuws) - TikTok (https://n.pr/3sGZdrq) - YouTube (https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C) - Facebook (https://n.pr/3h92GwS) Listen to more Planet Money:  - Our short, daily podcast, The Indicator from Planet Money (https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510325/the-indicator-from-planet-money) - Over 1,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510289) Merch:  - NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=planet+money&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) - The Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?_pos=1&_sid=c2996cc29&_ss=r) Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . This episode was hosted by Kenny Malone. It was produced by Sam Yellowhorse Kesler and James Sneed. It was edited by our executive producer Alex Goldmark. It was fact-checked by Sierra Juarez and Sam Yellowhorse Kesler. It was engineered by Jimmy Keeley and Cena Loffredo. Special thanks this week to everyone who wrote in with a tale of tariff drama. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

This week our top indicators include changes to the funding model for SNAP, private equity’s influence on youth baseball and Meta’s attempt to find flaws in its brand new AI assistant.  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  –Why Trump's spending bill could close your grocery store (https://www.npr.org/2025/08/13/nx-s1-5500298/why-trumps-spending-bill-could-close-your-grocery-store) –Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money –The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. –Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) –Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE) –Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Federal immigration enforcement arrests reached record highs this past summer, and under the second Trump administration, immigration agents can now more easily access so-called sensitive areas, including hospitals. Today on the show: how both patients and healthcare workers are bearing the physical and economic costs of these deportation campaigns.  Featuring Dr. William D. Lopez, author of Raiding the Heartland: an American Story of Deportation and Resistance. (https://www.press.jhu.edu/books/title/53706/raiding-heartland) Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen   How ICE arrests are creating 'economies of fear' (https://lnk.to/ulRLOh) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) - a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. Buy the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE)   Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) For sponsor-free episodes, subscribe to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney)   Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) .  See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Rising electricity prices are one of the primary reasons why data centers are a public enemy this election cycle. But is it realistic to expect energy prices to stay high forever?  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  No AI data centers in my backyard! (http://lnk.to/ySc9oQ) Over 2,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510325) Connect with The Indicator from Planet Money The Indicator newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) — a weekly roundup of news, ideas and staff picks. Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/planetmoney/?hl=en) , TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@planetmoney) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiWlgFyO9hsMut185wEh-5F9YMUF6wqar) Find the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE)   Find the Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?Pmax&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=23597731376&gbraid=0AAAABCDc-MlxLoHpn3aB7Cl5X-nVnzyXL&gclid=Cj0KCQjwuJLWBhD_ARIsAIBcRUwrAD7rYHnu5no4C0djeuOI59nR5dW4zDuToOiV0blG0NXSP6pqf5IaAkinEALw_wcB) , and other merch at the NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=indicator&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) ! Support public media by subscribing to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/planetmoney) and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Charles Ponzi was down on his luck. In 1919, the Italian immigrant had spent a decade and a half in the U.S. He was looking for a way to get rich and tried his hand at everything — including bookkeeping, sign painting, grocery clerk, dishwasher, and librarian. He caught a lucky break in August, when he received a letter from Europe. In the envelope was an International Reply Coupon, a clever way to prepay for international postage. Ponzi realized he might be able to use these coupons to make his fortune. All he needed was investors. What happened next made him a household name. This is the story of the man behind the eponymous Ponzi scheme — a tale of financial fraud that lives up to its linguistic legacy. (Note: The original version of this episode ran in 2023 (https://www.npr.org/2023/01/20/1150332566/charles-ponzi-financial-scam) .) Read Planet Money:  • Our book: Planet Money: A Guide to the Economic Forces That Shape Your Life (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdD)   • Our weekly longform Planet Money newsletter (https://n.pr/3zrFvUB) • Our weekly Indicator round-up newsletter (https://www.npr.org/newsletter/indicator) Follow Planet Money:  • Instagram (https://n.pr/3FqLuws) • TikTok (https://n.pr/3sGZdrq) • YouTube (https://lnk.to/iCVDaW3C) • Facebook (https://n.pr/3h92GwS) Listen to more Planet Money:  • Our short, daily podcast, The Indicator from Planet Money (https://www.npr.org/podcasts/510325/the-indicator-from-planet-money) • Over 1,000 episodes in our archive on the NPR App (https://app.npr.org/aggregation/510289) Merch:  • NPR Shop (https://shopnpr.org/search?q=planet+money&options%5Bprefix%5D=last) • The Planet Money game, Sell Me A Sasquatch (https://shopnpr.org/products/planet-moneys-sell-me-a-sasquatch-board-game?_pos=1&_sid=c2996cc29&_ss=r) Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include bonus episodes and sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org/) . This episode was produced by James Sneed. It was fact checked by Sierra Juarez, mastered by Natasha Branch, and edited by Jess Jiang. It's based on the book Ponzi's Scheme, by Mitchell Zuckoff. See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

Norway has the world’s largest sovereign wealth fund, but it’s facing a self-imposed dilemma. Should the fund's investments include companies that directly or indirectly contribute to the ongoing Israel-Hamas war? On today’s show, the ethical tightrope Norway is walking to invest its oil riches responsibly.  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  —How would a US sovereign wealth fund even work? (https://www.npr.org/2025/02/06/1229439878/what-is--sovereign-wealth-fund)   Connect with The Indicator  — Sign up for The Indicator’s weekly newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) !  — Buy the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE)   — Find our socials, YouTube and more (https://linktr.ee/indicator_npr) !  — For sponsor-free episodes, subscribe to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/)   Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)

How do you ask your friends to pay you back in a timely way? We’ve got an etiquette coach to help with that.  Fact checking by Sierra Juarez (https://www.npr.org/people/1268825622/sierra-juarez) . Your Next Listen  — Is this a bank? (https://www.npr.org/2023/08/10/1193331363/is-this-a-bank) Connect with The Indicator  — Sign up for The Indicator’s weekly newsletter (https://npr.org/indicatornewsletter) !  — Buy the Planet Money book (https://lnk.to/i3AukBdDWE)   — Find our socials, YouTube and more (https://linktr.ee/indicator_npr) !  — For sponsor-free episodes, subscribe to NPR+ (https://plus.npr.org/)   Support public media with NPR+ and enjoy perks for over 25 podcasts like this one. This show’s perks include sponsor-free listening. Learn more at plus.npr.org (http://plus.npr.org) . See pcm.adswizz.com (https://pcm.adswizz.com) for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences. NPR Privacy Policy (https://www.npr.org/about-npr/179878450/privacy-policy)