Mark Pincus created FarmVille and Words With Friends, built Zynga into a multi-billion dollar company, and experienced both spectacular success and painful failure along the way.
In this conversation, he reveals the lessons that came from nearly missing the biggest opportunities of his career, rebuilding after setbacks, and learning how to spot winning ideas before everyone else.
You'll learn why most founders build the wrong thing, how great products tap into deep human needs, what separates products people try from products they use every day, and why your instincts are often right even when your execution fails.
Mark also shares the frameworks he used to build Zynga, navigate Facebook's rapidly changing platform, make high-stakes decisions under pressure, and avoid the compromises that quietly destroy companies.
Timestamps:
00:00 The Principles of Great Products
01:34 How to Test if Your Idea Has "Heat"
04:02 Falling Out with His Father
06:14 Early Career Fails
09:27 The Presentation that Kicked him out of Bain
12:04 The Book of Life System for Making Strategic Decisions
17:56 Why Your Instincts are Good and Your Ideas are Bad
22:29 Copying is the Key to Great Product Design
23:22 System for Building Great Products
24:05 How to Use "Proven Better New" to Build Ideas
27:39 Why Deconstruction Leads to Better Products
29:33 All Founders Go Through This
35:14 How Zynga Changed Social Gaming
37:25 Pitching Zynga to Steve Jobs
40:36 The Fatal Mistake Founders Make
41:24 The Fight Between Peter Thiel and Sequoia
43:03 The Explosion of Farmville
45:45 Zynga's Near-Death Experience on Facebook
48:36 Why Failure Machines Reveal Your Best Ideas
49:28 The Thing that Almost Killed Words with Friends
53:05 Why the Minimum Viable Product Approach is Hurting You
54:03 Building Fast is More Important than Building Right
56:19 How Zynga Missed Their Instagram Moment
58:50 Your Company Should Be a Democratic Dictatorship
1:02:25 How to Build a Meritocracy in Your Company
1:03:44 Jeff Bezos' Invaluable Management Trick
1:05:25 Bezos Hack: Scaling Leadership with Tech Assistants
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