How I Built This with Guy Raz

Guy Raz | Wondery

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劳拉·莫迪决心打造一款更优质的婴儿配方奶粉。随之而来的是多年的挫折:与美国食品药品监督管理局的激烈纠纷、寻找制造商的艰难历程,以及公司资金在触及客户前就可能耗尽的持续恐惧。 但如今,Bobbie年营收超过1亿美元,通过挑战美国最受保护的行业之一,已占据美国婴儿配方奶粉市场近4%的份额。 在这次对话中,劳拉讲述了她如何渡过难关——以及为何许多看似灾难的时刻最终成就了一家更优秀的公司,也让她成为更出色的创业者。 你将学到: - 劳拉为何放弃一份好工作,去打造美国监管最严格的产品之一 - 她在获得外部投资前,如何自掏腰包近20万美元 - 64次投资者路演如何帮助她讲出更动人的故事 - 一次公开道歉如何改变了公司的发展轨迹 - 为何Bobbie在增长最快的时期拒绝了数千名客户 - 劳拉为何搬到华盛顿特区,以及她对联邦监管的看法 时间戳: 13:17 – 揭示巨大商业机遇的情感体验 23:09 – 劳拉了解到垄断美国配方奶粉市场的两家公司 25:52 – 离开Airbnb,怀孕期间创立Bobbie,押上全部积蓄 38:52 – 向64位投资者路演——残酷的反馈反而激励她继续前行 50:04 – FDA在两周后叫停公司运营 1:01:14 – 在等待近两年审批期间建立社群 1:09:11 – 上市首日,销售速度远超预期 1:13:59 – 婴儿配方奶粉短缺期间,劳拉为何暂停新客户订单 1:17:12 – 收购自有制造工厂以掌控Bobbie的未来 1:20:19 – 游走华盛顿、应对监管、打造使命驱动型品牌 本期节目由Alex Cheng调研制作,音乐由Ramtin Arablouei创作,Neva Grant编辑,音频工程师Robert Rodriguez。 关注《我是如何打造这一切的》: Instagram → @howibuiltthis X → @HowIBuiltThis Facebook → How I Built This 关注Guy Raz: Instagram → @guy.raz YouTube → guy_raz X → @guyraz Substack → guyraz.substack.com 网站 → guyraz.com 隐私政策详见 https://art19.com/privacy 加州隐私声明详见 https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info

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今天的来电者:密歇根州的托尼正在考虑引入合伙人,分别管理他的啤酒馆和剧院业务的不同部分。随后,伦敦的莫妮卡正在探索如何以最佳方式触达注重时尚的父母,推广她的童装系列。而科罗拉多州的桑迪则在寻找理想的定价策略,以便将他的自适应备考平台推广至全国学校。感谢Hearsay Brewing and Theater、Tres London和Brain Buffs的创始人参与我们的节目。如果您希望在未来《建议热线》节目中亮相——盖伊和往期节目嘉宾将解答早期创业者的疑问——请给我们留一段一分钟的语音信息,介绍您的业务并提出一个具体问题。将语音备忘录发送至hibt@id.wondery.com,或拨打1-800-433-1298。同时,请务必收听我们与第七代公司杰弗里·霍兰德、M.M LaFleur的莎拉·拉弗勒以及Happy Family Organics的莎齐·维斯拉姆合作的《建议热线》节目。本期节目由凯瑞·汤普森制作,音乐由拉姆廷·阿拉布洛伊创作,约翰·伊莎贝拉编辑,音频工程师吉米·基利。您可以在X和Instagram上关注HIBT,并通过guyraz.com或Substack订阅盖伊的免费新闻通讯。隐私政策详见https://art19.com/privacy,加州隐私声明详见https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info。

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今天的来电者:来自萨拉索塔的安迪正在权衡,他的现场游戏秀业务实现规模化发展的路径究竟是依靠个人魅力还是产品本身。随后,坦帕的玛丽莎在因专注家庭而暂停业务后,希望重新找回她那些受童话启发的茶饮的销量。而来自新泽西的文斯则在思考,如何为他的可持续婴儿用品公司分配营销预算。 此外,科特反思了专注力对于让OtterBox在30多年间保持领先科技配件品牌地位的重要性。 感谢Mr GameShow、Gilded Coach Teas和Evrloop的创始人参与我们的节目。 如果您希望出现在未来的《建议热线》节目中——盖伊和往期节目嘉宾将回答早期创业者的提问——请给我们留一段一分钟的语音信息,介绍您的业务以及您希望得到解答的具体问题。将语音备忘录发送至hibt@id.wondery.com,或拨打1-800-433-1298。 请务必收听科特在2019年节目中讲述的OtterBox创业故事。 本期节目由卡拉·埃斯特维斯制作,音乐由拉姆廷·阿拉布卢伊创作,约翰·伊莎贝拉编辑,音频工程师是罗伯特·罗德里格斯。 您可以在X和Instagram上关注HIBT,并在guyraz.com和Substack上订阅盖伊的免费新闻通讯。 隐私政策请见 https://art19.com/privacy,加州隐私声明请见 https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info。

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在等待支付餐厅账单时等了太久,阿曼·纳兰觉得一定有更好的办法。他的第一个想法——一款移动支付应用——以失败告终。 但那次失败揭示了一个更大的机遇。 餐厅正苦于使用过时的软件,许多老板对此深恶痛绝。支付系统昂贵、不可靠,且被锁在后台办公室的服务器里。更换它们既耗时又费钱。 但这正是阿曼和他的联合创始人们着手去做的事:从零开始,为餐厅打造一套全新的POS系统。 他们在一个未完工的地下室里工作,用自己的手机接听客户电话,第一天就让第一家餐厅系统崩溃,经历了多年被投资者拒绝的困境——最终将Toast打造成年收入超过20亿美元的企业。 在本期节目中,阿曼分享了一个失败的产品如何成为一家价值数十亿美元的公司。 你将学到: 如何判断何时该转型 为什么投资者一次又一次拒绝Toast 如何说服客户更换关键任务软件 为什么Toast在扩张前刻意保持小规模 阿曼在差点毁掉公司后学到的领导力课程 餐厅关闭后Toast如何挺过新冠疫情 创始人在选择联合创始人时应该注意什么 时间戳: 11:25 — 激发Toast灵感的令人沮丧的餐厅体验 15:41 — 第一个产品失败——并揭示了一个更大的机遇 16:43 — 打造Toast:“我们严重低估了所需付出的努力。” 26:05 — 为什么几乎每个投资者都说“不” 32:31 — Toast灾难性的首次发布:手写信用卡号码 34:18 — 在找到相信者之前向数百位餐厅老板推销 38:08 — 为什么关注客户胜过关注竞争对手 44:17 — 引入新CEO:“我们需要重新思考这里的做事方式。” 52:31 — 打造一家20亿美元公司的最重要经验 本期节目由萨姆·保尔森制作,音乐由拉姆廷·阿拉布卢伊创作。由内瓦·格兰特编辑,凯西·赫尔曼提供研究协助。我们的工程师是克韦西·李。 关注《我是如何打造这个的》: Instagram → @howibuiltthis X → @HowIBuiltThis Facebook → How I Built This 关注盖伊·拉兹: Instagram → @guy.raz YouTube → guy_raz X → @guyraz Substack → guyraz.substack.com 网站 → guyraz.com 隐私政策见 https://art19.com/privacy,加州隐私声明见 https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info。

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今天的来电者:来自北卡罗来纳州的Darin寻求关于消费者教育的建议,因为他的酥油零食品牌正在进入主要零售商。随后,来自马萨诸塞州的Sarah探讨了她从未冷冻过的无麸质烘焙食品的规模化路径。俄亥俄州的John则在考虑在线销售是否能扭转他当地食品合作社的局面。此外,Ben评论了推动Olipop估值接近20亿美元的因素,并批评了一条常让创始人陷入困境的商业建议。感谢Gheelish、Sarah's Gluten Free Goods和Bexley's Natural Foods的创始人参与本期节目。如果您希望出现在未来的咨询热线节目中——Guy和往期节目嘉宾将回答早期阶段创始人提出的问题——请给我们留一段一分钟的语音信息,告诉我们您的生意以及您想得到解答的具体问题。将语音备忘录发送至hibt@id.wondery.com,或致电1-800-433-1298。另外,请务必收听Ben在2024年讲述的Olipop创业故事。本期节目由Kerry Thompson制作,音乐由Ramtin Arablouei创作。编辑是John Isabella。音频工程师是Cena Loffredo和Robert Rodriguez。您可以在X和Instagram上关注HIBT,并订阅Guy的免费新闻通讯,网址为guyraz.com或Substack。 隐私政策请见 https://art19.com/privacy ,加州隐私声明请见 https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info。

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妮可·伯纳德·道斯的童年大部分时间都在她父亲位于科德角的薯片工厂里度过。她很喜欢父亲用铜锅炸的薯片,远胜于母亲健康食品店里那些寡淡无味的零食。但当她开始创业时,她想要两全其美:一种用天然有机原料制成……却依然美味的零食。 妮可于2003年创立了Late July Snacks,当时大多数消费者几乎还不知道“有机”意味着什么。多年来,销售一直举步维艰。后来,在危机时刻,她通过推出全新产品——有机玉米片——做出了拯救公司的关键转型。短短几年内,Late July的销售额就突破了1亿美元,妮可决定在一个更具挑战性的品类中推出新品牌:苏打水。 你将学到: 在家族企业中成长如何帮助你——也可能伤害你——当你自己创业时 财务投资者与战略投资者的利弊 何时该砍掉不奏效的产品 为什么合同中的细则如此重要 最艰难的决定如何可能对你的家庭和事业都是最好的选择 时间戳: 07:22 - 一场车祸催生了一家薯片公司 21:00 - 怀孕时渴望吃饼干:Late July Snacks的诞生 36:54 - 味道很棒但差点毁掉公司的有机曲奇 40:49 - 悲剧与危机:父亲的去世和300万美元贷款的违约 50:31 - 孤注一掷的玉米片 57:29 - 妮可的第一次重要销售电话……也是她拯救公司的最后机会 1:08:49 - “大鱼吃小鱼。”食品巨头的收购 1:13:36 - 妮可推出新品牌,从一个艰难的品类——转向更艰难的品类 本集由Chris Maccini研究和制作,音乐由Ramtin Arablouei创作。编辑:Neva Grant。工程师:Robert Rodriguez。 关注How I Built This: Instagram → @howibuiltthis X → @HowIBuiltThis Facebook → How I Built This 关注Guy Raz: Instagram → @guy.raz Youtube → guy_raz X → @guyraz Substack → guyraz.substack.com 网站 → guyraz.com 隐私政策见 https://art19.com/privacy ,加州隐私声明见 https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info。

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Today’s callers: Cristopher from Chicago wants to expand his family’s salsa brand from farmers markets into retail. Next, Darcy in Australia considers adapting his protein bar brand’s messaging to reach beyond his core enthusiasts. Finally, Seema in Canada seeks strategies to increase B2B sales for her ethical kitchen linen company. Plus, Daymond and Guy talk about what makes a great Shark Tank pitch, and why Guy decided to start How I Built This 10 years ago. Thank you to the founders of Sabor a Mexico, Raised Nutrition and Cooks Who Feed for joining us on the show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to FUBU’s founding story as told by Daymond on the show in 2018.  This episode was produced by Katherine Sypher with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Kwesi Lee.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Roy and Ryan were avid outdoorsmen who wanted a cooler that wouldn’t break. So they built one themselves.The result was YETI: a high-end cooler that early retailers thought nobody would buy. But serious outdoorsmen did—and eventually YETI escaped its niche, becoming a status symbol at tailgates, beaches, and soccer fields.In this episode, Roy and Ryan explain how they bootstrapped YETI, survived the sudden loss of their only manufacturing partner, and later stumbled onto the $30 product that supercharged the business. WHAT YOU'LL LEARNWhy solving a problem you personally experience can be more powerful than chasing a huge market.How YETI convinced people accustomed to $40 coolers to spend $300–$400.Why the brothers deliberately started with small independent retailers instead of chasing major chains.Why Roy and Ryan chose not to aggressively fight copycats How the sudden loss of their only manufacturer nearly destroyed YETI—but ultimately made the company stronger.How the brothers bootstrapped YETI for years without venture capitalWhy a simple $30 stainless-steel cup—not the famous $400 cooler— transformed YETI into a mass-market brand.TIMESTAMPS 6:10 — A free-range childhood of hunting and exploring10:02 — Early businesses: fishing rods and boats  15:30 — Roy’s early frustrations with coolers. “The hinges would break, the latches would snap.” 31:20 — The last-minute flight to the Philippines that led to YETI40:53 — People didn’t love the name–but they remembered it 47:49 — Why people were willing to spend $400 on a cooler 1:01:18 — The phone call that nearly pulled the plug on the business1:06:30 — How Roy and Ryan turned a catastrophe into a stronger company1:22:27 — From coolers to cups: A $30 product changed the trajectory of the brand  1:25:44 — Why the founders eventually moved on from YETI This episode was researched and produced by Carla Esteves, with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant. Our audio engineers were Maggie Luthar and Jimmy Keeley.Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Shawn from Saskatchewan weighs whether brand-building or licensing is best for his card-based party game. Then Shirin in Texas wants to differentiate her graphic stationery in a crowded Etsy marketplace. And Mark from New Jersey works through refocusing his line of craft spirits. Plus, Carlton’s recent efforts to pass on his trendspottting talent to the next generation.Thank you to the founders of Youlogy, Honey Bespoke Stationery & Paper Goods, and Little Water Distillery for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to the Razor founding story as told by Carlton Calvin in 2025.This episode was produced by Casey Herman with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Annlie Huang.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy’s free newsletter at guyraz.com or on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today's callers: Bob in Chicago looks to promote his cabbage-based muscle and joint rub beyond the walls of his orthopedic practice. Then Abby in Dallas wonders whether her popular social media livestreams are a sustainable way to market her trendy phone cases. And Henry in Charlotte wants to turn his mouth rinse for coffee drinkers into a mainstream oral care brand.Plus, Bobbi shares what drove her to found her new company—Jones Road—at the age of 62.Thank you to the founders of Cabbage Labs, AbbyRose, and Tannin Oral Care for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to Bobbi Brown Cosmetics’ founding story as told by Bobbi on the show in 2018.This episode was produced by Sam Paulson with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Andrea Bruce. Our audio engineer was Cena Loffredo.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy’s free newsletter at guyraz.com or on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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What do you do when the family business you've spent decades building... gets bought out from under you? That’s what happened to Nima and Salma Fotovat.Devastated, the family rebuilt a new company from the ground up. This time they set out with a new idea: build an allergen-free, organic snack brand not just for kids, but their parents.  Their new brand: MadeGood.Today, the Canadian brand’s parent company does hundreds of millions of dollars in sales. But getting there meant rebuilding from scratch, fixing 200,000 mislabeled snack bars by hand, and turning a family of co-packers into branding experts.What you'll learn:How owning manufacturing can be a competitive edgeHow they grew a national brand with almost no marketing. Why it can be a winning strategy to say "yes" before you know how Introducing new products: the tension between research and emotion  The mindset that can help you rebuild after a devastating setbackTimestamps:6:05 - Growing up in Iran during wartime, and emigrating to Canada 11:55 - Their dad’s new business: “Why are North Americans not eating nougat?”  19:25 - Building the family’s first snack bar brand—and losing it overnight34:20 - The next business: going all in on healthier school snacks42:30 - Fixing a 200,000-bar production error with alcohol wipes 48:30 - Landing MadeGood’s first retail store51:10 - The 100-mile radius marketing strategy 56:50 - The lure of new products: from human treats to dog treats See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Many founders think the hardest thing about business is finding customers.It's not.It's surviving success.When Lily Kanter and Serena Dugan launched a luxury baby linen business, they had no manufacturing experience, no inventory, and barely any capital. But after their first catalog landed just as a major competitor left the market, orders flooded in almost overnight.The problem? They hadn’t made the products yet. Today, Serena and Lily has grown into one of the best known luxury home goods brands in the country. But getting there was a grind. This is one of the most revealing conversations we've ever had about unplanned opportunities, and the hidden cost of taking outside investment. From financing their first inventory with customer deposits... to walking away from a disastrous investment deal... to nearly losing control of the company they built, this episode is a masterclass in what happens when rapid growth collides with the realities of cash flow.You Will Learn: The clever way Serena & Lily financed its first production runHow one perfectly timed opportunity launched the businessWhy "smart money" isn't always smartHow investor and founder incentives can be completely misalignedThe warning signs hidden inside a term sheetTimestamps:06:11 – Lily's years at Microsoft, and the money that helped launch a business11:55 – Serena repaints an old table and discovers people will pay for her designs 24:21 – “No bunnies, ducks or choo choo trains.” Lily and Serena meet, and decide to sell high-end baby linen: 36:01 – $100,000 in orders... for products that didn't exist yet37:38 – The cash-flow hack that kept the company afloat 46:14 – “They patted us on the head.” Patronizing investors, and a predatory term sheet 51:28 – The financial crisis forces a complete reinvention of the business58:47 – The lawsuit, the boardroom battle, and the investor who nearly brought Serena & Lily down1:03:26 – Why acquisition offers couldn't save the company—and the lesson every founder should hearThis episode was produced by J.C. Howard, with music by Ramtin Arablouei.Edited by Neva Grant, with research help from Katherine Sypher.Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Adrian from California wants to grow his apparel company to complete with big-name athletic brands. Then, Preet from the Rockies looks for strategies to reach seniors and their children with his daily check-in app. And Derek from Virginia considers social media and professional partnerships to advertise his hockey equipment brand. Plus, Chris talks about launching a new athletic apparel brand while continuing to grow UNTUCKit.Thank you to the founders of Eras Shorts, Snug Safety, and Hockey Ninja for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to UNTUCKit’s founding story as told by Steve on the show in 2017.This episode was produced by Chris Maccini with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Annlie Huang.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Chuck Surack never planned to build one of America's largest online retailers. He just wanted to be a musician. So right after high school, he took his sax and drove off in his old VW van to play gigs around the country. It didn’t work out. But with the audio and mixing skills Chuck learned gigging, he decided to convert his van into a mobile recording studio - and started making money fast by making recordings of local bands, businesses, and schools.The game-changer came as a one-two-three punch: first, he created a new product - digitized sound libraries - to sell nationally; second, he started selling high end pro audio gear; third, he instituted a sales culture hyper-focused on customers and relationship-building that resulted in Sweetwater’s enormous and super loyal online customer base. In this episode, Chuck shares how he built a retail giant from his garage, why customer service became his greatest competitive advantage, and why, even in the age of AI, human relationships remain one of the most valuable assets any business can build. What you'll learnThe hiring philosophy that transformed customer service into a competitive moat and has helped Sweetwater fend off much larger competitorsWhy under-cutting competitor prices and offering discounts isn’t always the answer to fuel sales and growth Why the best salespeople aren’t always don’t think of themselves as salespeople - and don’t have to come from sales or marketing backgroundsWhy training people—not technology—may be the biggest, best investment a company can makeHow saying "no" to bad products strengthened customer trustThe leadership principle: empowering employees to solve problems without asking permissionTimestamps05:39 — The saxophone player who never meant to build a billion-dollar company09:11 — How turning his VW van into a mobile recording studio was the first step in building a business14:37 — The $20,000 keyboard synthesizer that changed his life forever21:27 — Chuck gets into retail - almost in spite of himself34:39 — Why Sweetwater refused to compete on price37:51 — How Chuck and his early team started to learn the power of customer service44:45 — Inside "Sweetwater University" and being a Sales Engineer: 13 weeks of training before an employee answers the phone46:55 — Leadership rule for employees: Never ask permission to do the right thing1:03:19 — Why Amazon hasn’t stopped himThis episode was produced by Casey Herman with music by Ramtin Arablouei, and edited by Andrea Bruce with research help from Carla Esteves.Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Matt from New York City unpacks the stigma working against his line of foot wellness products. Then Emefa in Toronto seeks a direct relationship with customers of her fashion brand in the wake of a key retailer going out of business. Finally, Levi in Rhode Island explores new audiences and product lines for his commemorative golf sculpture business.Plus, Kenneth and Guy discuss how to make social impact a real part of your business model.Thank you to the founders of Pedestrian Project, ISRAELLA KOBLA, and Swing Sculpt for joining us on the show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to Kenneth Cole’s founding story as told on the show in 2020.This episode was produced by Alex Cheng with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Tom Rinks got his start in the commission-only "shark tank" of midwestern furniture sales. That’s where he learned what makes customers buy. Decades later, those instincts helped him grow a joke of a side hustle into a $400 million success.In 2009, he created the iconic branding for an obscure sun tan lotion, drawing on a mish-mash of surf culture, Scandinavian furniture, and Japanese streetwear. Sun Bum became a huge success, but even before that, Tom helped boost a wildly diverse range of brands: a line of tequila, a series of Christian videos, and the ubiquitous “Yo quiero Taco Bell” campaign. All were successful, though it took a prolonged legal battle for Tom to get paid for the Taco Bell chihuahua. In this episode, Tom reveals how he learned to manipulate consumer psychology, survive the brutal warfare of a stolen idea, and engineer a brand explosion on his own terms. WHAT YOU'LL LEARNChihuahuas and Apes: How the Right Mascot can Transform a Brand What it takes to survive a five-year legal battle against a corporate titan.The "Elvis Principle:”  How combining unexpected design elements can create an unforgettable package The "Trojan Horse" Strategy: Why forcing retailers to buy a massive display creates the illusion of a brand overnight.TIMESTAMPS08:15 - What selling furniture taught Tom about customer psychology 10:00 - How the Slogan “Surf Michigan” got him into the T-shirt Business 25:07 - Psycho Chihuahua, Taco Bell, and the Branding Deal that Wasn’t  33:49 - Inside the grueling battle over a chihuahua mascot. “I was the guy suing Taco Bell.” 39:35 - A dramatic legal verdict, and Tom’s branding business takes off with fancy Tequila 49:47 - The sun screen opportunity: “I saw a gigantic hole that you could drive through.” 55:03 - How Tom and his partner came up with their “badass ape” logo 1:07:36 - Opening (fake) Sun Bum headquarters in Cocoa Beach, Fla 1:10:31- Early store displays and making the brand seem bigger than it was 1:14:56 - A $400M sale to SC Johnson, and Tom starts a new companyThis episode was researched by Katherine Sypher and Susannah Broun and produced by Casey Herman, with music by Ramtin Arablouei, and edited by Neva Grant.  Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams founder Jeni Britton joins Guy on the Advice Line to answer questions from three early-stage entrepreneurs. Plus, how Jeni’s newest venture Floura is tackling one of America’s largest dietary needs—fiber. First, we meet Jesse in Washington, D.C., who’s wondering how to best focus marketing efforts for his frozen french fry company. Then Casey from Boston, who's questioning the pressure she's feeling to pursue outside capital for her frozen pierogi brand. And finally, Callie from Los Angeles asks about the pros and cons of contracting a PR firm to promote her purple sweet potato pet treats.Thank you to the founders of Jesse & Ben’s, Jaju Pierogi and Ubae.co for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode, leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to Jeni’s Splendid Ice Creams’ founding story as told by Jeni on the show in 2018.This episode was produced by Katherine Sypher with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Neal Rauch.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Krishna Kaliannan wanted to start a tech company but failed at every attempt. On the side, he was teaching himself how to cook with high-protein, low-sugar ingredients. Not just out of interest, but out of necessity. As a teenager, Krishna had been diagnosed with diabetes and epilepsy, meaning he adopted a keto diet long before it was trendy. Krishna’s home experiments with pea powder and monk fruit eventually became Catalina Crunch, one of the country’s most popular high-protein, low-carb breakfast cereals and snacks. In this episode, Krishna shares how a life-changing health condition sparked an obsession with healthy baking— and a brand that reimagined snacking.What You’ll LearnHow to turn a health challenge into a business opportunity The art and science of baking with esoteric ingredientsWhen to trust partners and when it’s best to take charge yourselfWhy the DTC model is great for some industries and disastrous for othersTimestamps:00:06:16 - Dealing with diabetes and epilepsy as a college student00:12:38 - What Krishna learns from his early failures in tech00:22:43 - The first, low-sugar cocoa puffs: “Rocks that tasted like soil.”   00:27:36 - His homemade cereal gets good enough to sell00:32:42 - Naming the brand: classy alliteration and a nod to a Will Ferrell movie 00:44:51 - Learning to make cereal like the pros at Texas A&M00:54:43 - Krishna moves from NYC to Indiana to make sure the cereal is made right01:01:04 - Whole Foods, Costco, and becoming a household brandThis episode was researched and produced by Chris Maccini with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant. Our engineer was Kwesi Lee. Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Ann from Nashville asks how to adapt her jewelry business in the face of rising gold prices. Then Felix in Martha’s Vineyard considers strategies for growing his family’s legacy honey and skincare company. Finally, Matt in Massachusetts seeks strategies for maintaining a healthy work-life balance at his grief-inspired brewing project. Plus, Ronnen and Guy discuss why your 20s are the best time to start a business. Thank you to the founders of Yearly Company, Island Bee Company and Wandering Soul Beer for joining us on the show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to Spin Master and PAW Patrol’s founding story as told by Ronnen on the show in 2021.  This episode was produced by Katherine Sypher with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Cena Loffredo.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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In 2004, Joey Shamah and his partner launched a cosmetics company built on an idea that made almost no sense:Sell high-quality makeup for just $1.At the time, high quality beauty products were supposed to be expensive. The biggest brands spent fortunes on celebrity endorsements, glossy ads, and premium shelf space.And every major retailer told Joey the same thing:Your idea will never work.But Joey believed he'd found a wormhole in the beauty business: spend money on the product, not fancy packaging, marketing, or celebrity endorsements. Then, pass those savings on to your customers. The brand grew slowly, but Joey knew he was onto something when a bizarre rumor spread that Bloomingdale's was buying e.l.f. and raising prices. Within days, the tiny company went from a few hundred orders a week to 18,000 orders a day.What followed was a journey from a scrappy warehouse operation in New Jersey to one of the most disruptive brands in the beauty business.You'll learn:The surprising economics behind $1 lipstickWhy retailers initially rejected e.l.f.How a single magazine mention launched e.l.f.'s online businessThe retail insight that unlocked national expansionHow a false rumor generated 18,000 orders a dayThe emotional toll of a $225 million acquisition that collapsed at the eleventh hour Timestamps:00:10:28 — How to make (decent) makeup for just $100:18:35 — The dollar stores say no00:24:32 — Glamour comes calling, and e.l.f has 30 days to build a website00:38:27 — The question from a Target buyer that leaves Joey speechless 00:39:56 — The H-E-B test that proves everyone wrong00:46:36 — “That’s news to me!” The viral rumor that sends Joey back to China 00:59:42 — Scaling to tens of millions in revenue01:07:15 — “It was crushing.” The L’oreal sale that never happened 01:12:02 — After e.l.f: Joey stops watching House of Cards and gets back to businessThis episode was produced by Carla Esteves with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei.It was edited by Neva Grant with research by Olivia Rockman. Our audio engineer was Patrick Murray. Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Ruchi from Chicago looks for advice on which channels to focus distribution for her probiotic skincare line. Then Peter in San Francisco considers strategies to champion his line of organic South African wines. And Dominic from Barbados asks about expanding his specialty coffee brand into international markets like the United States.Plus, Susan discusses how people and relationships can make or break your business.Thank you to the founders of Yobee, Culture Wine, and Wyndhams Bajan Coffee Roasters for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to EO Products founding story as told by Susan Griffin-Black and Brad Black in 2019.This episode was produced by Casey Herman with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Robert Rodriguez.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy’s free newsletter at guyraz.com or on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Stephen Starr didn’t plan to get into the restaurant business.He set out to be a radio DJ. Then a nightclub owner. Then a music promoter.Along the way, he booked a young Jerry Seinfeld for $75, promoted shows for U2 and Madonna, and spent years pretending to be more successful than he really was.Then, in his late 30s, Stephen walked into a glitzy martini bar in New York.He was so taken with it, he decided to start his own version in Philadelphia.Today, Starr Restaurant Group generates nearly half a billion dollars in annual revenue and includes some of the most successful independent restaurants in America: Pastis, Buddakan, Le Diplomate, Parc, Makoto, and dozens more.The surprising part?Stephen did not start out as a foodie.Instead, he became obsessed with the theatre of dining: design, upholstery, lighting, music. A “wow!” feeling when you walk in the door.In this conversation with Guy, Stephen talks about the hard lessons he learned in the comedy and music business, and the unexpected path he took to redefining dining.What You'll Learn:The unglamorous economics of rock concerts and restaurantsHow rejection, romantic heartbreak, and failure can become powerful motivatorsWhy he believes he's spent his career "throwing the party" without attending itHow building the right team of designers can make a restaurant feel magicalWhy Stephen says today's entrepreneurs have a much harder path than his generation didThe model Stephen says new restaurateurs should follow todayTimestamps:00:06:03 — A lonely childhood: Making up skits in his room00:09:49 — Losing his mother at age 1900:11:17 — Starting a comedy club: Deli by day. Stand up at night00:20:49 — Going broke and reneging on a bank loan00:28:26 — Music promotion: Feeling like a fraud while promoting U2, Madonna00:36:52 — A New York martini bar inspires Stephen to start his own00:42:20 — The bold design behind a line-out-the-door restaurant01:03:31 — Opening Buddakan in New York: “I can’t do anything better. This is Sgt. Pepper”01:09:08 — Starting a restaurant today: “I would say don’t do it … but if you do, keep it smaller”This episode was produced by Alex Cheng with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant with research by Sam Paulson. Our audio engineers were Patrick Murray and Robert Rodriguez.Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Daisy in the United Kingdom looks to grow her barefoot shoe brand across the pond in the United States. Then Rachel in Pennsylvania considers private labeling for her protein-packed sprinkles. And Andrew in California wonders whether he should seek investment for his pleasantly-scented soil additive.Plus, Shazi discusses why entrepreneurship is one of the most creative outlets a person can have.Thank you to the founders of Freet Barefoot, SprinkleBites, and PlantAmika for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to Happy Family Organics’ founding story as told by Shazi in 2020.This episode was produced by Sam Paulson with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Robert Rodriguez.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy’s free newsletter at guyraz.com or on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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When Maxine Clark left a top job in retail to start a make-your-own stuffed animal store, people thought she’d lost her mind. Investors doubted it. Friends questioned it. Retail experts couldn't understand how it would scale.But drawing on more than 20 years as a retail executive, Maxine built a massively  successful shopping “experience,”  where kids could stuff, dress and personalize their own stuffed animals. Today, Build-A-Bear has generated billions in sales, survived the decline of malls, weathered the financial crisis, and become a global brand.WHAT YOU'LL LEARN How a failed errand—and an offhand comment by a kid–inspired a business plan How Maxine leveraged two decades of retail experience to launch Build-a-Bear How Willy Wonka and Walt Disney were early inspirations How she built a wedge against competitors How she got through the financial crisisHow she knew when to step down as CEO– and how to collaborate with her successor  TIMESTAMPS: 05:52 - A mom Who Worked for Eleanor Roosevelt 09:18 - The Impromptu Interview That Changed Maxine’s Career16:00 - Becoming One of the Few Female Fortune 500 Executives18:43 - Why She Walked Away From Payless21:27 - The Beanie Baby Disappointment That Sparked Build-A-Bear26:14 - Designing the First Store: “Make it Like Willy Wonka.”37:53 - Opening Day — and a Line Out the Door39:53 - Defending the Brand Against Copycats and Lawsuits45:53 - Scaling to Hundreds of Stores and Going Public58:25 - Letting Go: Stepping Down as CEO and Building a LegacyThis episode was researched by Rommel Wood and produced by Kerry Thompson, with music by Ramtin Arablouei, and edited by Neva Grant. Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Whitney in Utah  wonders how to bridge the gap between pre-seed and institutional investment for her fitness/retail combo space. Then Chloe in the U.K. considers which markets to target for her at-home crafting kits. And Christy in Washington wants to convert gifters into repeat customers for her coffee flavoring brand.Plus, Christina’s take on why Milk Bar is better served with her as Chief Experimenter rather than Chief Executive.  Thank you to the founders of The Beau Collective, Cotton Clara, and Vashon Island Coffee Dust. If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298. And be sure to listen to the story of how Christina founded Milk Bar from our episode back in 2019.This episode was produced by J.C. Howard with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley.You can follow HIBT on Twitter & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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In 2004, German programmer Tobias Lütke was living in Ottawa with his girlfriend.An avid snowboarder, he wanted to launch an online snowboard shop, but found the e-commerce software available at the time to be clunky and expensive.So he decided to write his own e-commerce software.After he launched his online snowboard business, called Snowdevil, other online merchants were so impressed with what he built that they started asking to license Tobi's software to run their own stores.Tobi and his co-founder realized that software had more potential than snowboards, so they launched the e-commerce platform Shopify in 2006.Since then, it has grown into a publicly-traded company with over 7,000 employees and $11 billion in revenue.Timestamps: 07:20 - Tobi discovers snowboarding–and meets his future wife–on vacation in Canada11:25 - Building a new kind of snowboarding company29:35 - Pivot point: skateboards or software?34:25 - The night before Tobi’s wedding, Shopify switches business models45:25 - The 2008 financial crisis hits… revealing a huge opportunity 58:55 - After a decade, Shopify goes publicThis episode was produced by Casey Herman with music composed by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Neva Grant. This archive episode was produced by Katherine Sypher.Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Entrepreneur, author, and podcaster Tim Ferriss joins Guy on the Advice Line to answer questions from three early-stage founders. Plus, Tim shares the inspiration behind his latest venture, Coyote—a 10-minute card game that encourages time spent with friends and family.First, Lauryn from San Francisco asks about the best way to scale her biodegradable ear plugs in two very different directions. Then Emily from Kansas City weighs whether DTC or wholesale is where to focus her accessory brand after Taylor Swift wore one of her rings and sales exploded. And finally, Kimberly in Woolwich, Maine wonders how to incentivize her customers to pre-order her high-quality, sustainable, clothing. Thank you to the founders of GOB, EB & Co, and K. Becker Designs for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode, leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to Tim Ferriss’s founding story as told by Tim on the show in 2020. This episode was produced by Noor Gill with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by Andrea Bruce. Our audio engineer was Cena Loffredo.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy's free newsletter at guyraz.com and on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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In 1978, Brian Smith quit his accounting job in Australia and headed to California with a surfboard, some savings, and ambition. He figured California was where he’d find an idea or a product to bring back home to Australia to build a business. A year in, he was still looking.But then he saw an advertisement in a surfing magazine for Australian sheepskin boots. Uggs were so widespread in Australia at the time, the name was a generic term - like flip flops - not a brand. Brian was immediately stoked: these boots were virtually unknown in America. If he could get ugg boots for sale in the U.S., they would be a huge success! Almost nobody else agreed.For years, Brian lived on the edge of collapse. He sold boots from the back of his van and worked construction and golf course maintenance jobs to survive. Retailers laughed him out of stores. He lost control of his company twice. At one point, he literally crawled across the floor from stress, ready to walk away forever.And yet…he kept going.What followed was one of the most unlikely brand-building stories in modern retail history — involving surf culture, trademark wars, miraculous timing, brutal financing mistakes, and a product the fashion world initially dismissed.Today, UGG generates more than $2.5 billion a year in sales.You’ll hear how Brian:Turned rejection into problems to solveDiscovered marketing insights that changed UGG foreverSurvived years of cash-flow disastersLost control of the company and regained it a couple of times.Used surf culture to build an emotional connection with customersNearly quit… over and over again…And how he eventually sold UGG to footwear giant, DeckerTimestamps:09:51 Brian's eureka moment that led to the birth of UGG12:41 The first sales trip results in ZERO sales21:10 The mantra that kept Brian going while doing odd summer jobs to survive28:32 Brian gets a critical lesson in marketing…from some 12-year-old kids51:59 Brian’s most effective strategy for retail: the “Six-Pair Stocking Plan”56:42 On track to regain his ownership - Brian hits a huge snag01:01:57 A midnight phone call from Australia saves the business01:11:28 Brian gets the last laugh in the trademark dispute - and acquires a boot factory01:14:54 Pamela Anderson wears UGGs on the set of Baywatch01:23:39 A chance meeting in the Atlanta airport leads to a deal to sell UGGThis episode was researched and produced by Casey Herman, with music by Ramtin Arablouei, and edited by Andrea Bruce.Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today’s callers: Kristina in Ohio looks for avenues beyond organic social media to market her furniture designed for toddlers and parents alike. Then Phil in Michigan considers the best messaging to brew interest in his farm-made cherry vinegar. And Caroline in California scouts new ways to cultivate curiosity around her plant-based dog food.Plus, Jeffrey discusses the quiet momentum of social businesses as they navigate ‘greenhushing’ and a polarized political climate.Thank you to the founders of Twenty Five and Pine, Red Truck Orchards, and Petaluma for being a part of our show.If you’d like to be featured on a future Advice Line episode—where Guy and former show guests take questions from early-stage founders—leave us a one-minute message that tells us about your business and a specific question you’d like answered. Send a voice memo to hibt@id.wondery.com or call 1-800-433-1298.And be sure to listen to Seventh Generation’s founding story as told by Jeffrey and his co-founder Alan in 2021.This episode was produced by Sam Paulson with music by Ramtin Arablouei. It was edited by John Isabella. Our audio engineer was Jimmy Keeley.You can follow HIBT on X & Instagram and sign up for Guy’s free newsletter at guyraz.com or on Substack. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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At 25, Justin Gold was making experimental peanut butter in his home kitchen with a food processor and a stack of recipe journals. His singular obsession: bring new life to a tired lunchtime staple.What started as late-night experiments with honey, cinnamon and banana eventually became Justin's — one of the most influential natural food brands of the last two decades.At first, Justin got rejected by most grocery stores he approached. He worked overnight in a shared industrial kitchen, hand-filling jars one at a time. He couldn’t get a distributor, so he stocked the shelves at the Boulder Whole Foods himself.And when growth stalled… he had an idea during a mountain bike ride that would transform the company: What if peanut butter came in a squeeze pack?In this episode, Justin explains how relentless experimentation and stubbornness helped him build a category-defining brand — and how, with each entrepreneurial milestone, an even more challenging one emerged.YOU’LL LEARN:  How Justin reverse-engineered flavored peanut butter in his apartmentHow launching in Boulder gave him a big advantageHow he learned when to listen to feedback, and when to ignore it The deal he made with Whole Foods: “I’ll stock the shelves myself.”How the squeeze pack transformed the business, and why it almost didn’t work The power of naïve persistence in entrepreneurshipTimestamps:00:09:35 — The obsessive recipe experiments that became Justin’s edge00:16:25 — Getting support from Boulder’s startup food community 00:21:28 — Raising $35,000– and shocking his family: “I wanna make peanut butter!” 00:42:51 — The farmers market feedback that changed the product line00:46:56 — Justin talks his way into the first Whole Foods 00:51:47 — Justin’s gets into more stores, but sales start to stagnate 00:53:35 — The mountain bike ride that sparked the squeeze-pack idea 01:19:43 — The brand gets sold, Justin gets fired…and invited backThis episode was produced by J.C. Howard, with music by Ramtin Arablouei.Edited by Neva Grant, with research help from Alex Cheng.Follow How I Built This:Instagram → @howibuiltthisX → @HowIBuiltThisFacebook → How I Built ThisFollow Guy Raz:Instagram → @guy.razYoutube → guy_razX → @guyrazSubstack → guyraz.substack.comWebsite → guyraz.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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